Armor Plated Combat Shotgun

Once again the only profession that can make ranged weapons can make a purple for one of what is now four tanking classes... meanwhile nothing in sight for Hunters. Boo-urns. :(

edit: finally [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44504]something nice[/url] for Engineering Hunters too as of b8962 :)

Both guns are now BoE.

"[u][b]one of[/b][/u] what is now four tanking classes"

[quote]Incorrect. Death Knights cannot use guns or any ranged weapon for that matter. [/quote] That I believe is the intent of the comment above. Of the four tanking classes only one of them has a slot for a ranged weapon. The rest of the classes have what amount to highly specialized trinkets. In many peoples opinions this is a bit of an imbalance thanks to the inclusion of awesome stats and lack of choice among specialized gear but I won't debate the issue here. Warriors - Ranged weapon Paladins - Librams Druids - Idols Death Knights - Sigils

It should be noted that Warriors have the lowest Stamina percentage modifier of all tanking classes, 6% only, whereas DK have 10%, Paladins have 6% twice, and Druids well... have 20%+25%+6%, but that's because rogue leather has much less Stamina than plate tank gear. The massive amount of Stamina which you can get from this gun somewhat balances the Warriors naturally lower stamina.

Warriors have a naturally higher base health (on the order of 2000 over paladins at 80). The reason why paladins and the other "tanking" classes are given higher stamina scaling is to combat this higher base health differential. The reason and purpose of ranged slots for guns with high stam in them is to keep the stamina levels balanced at higher tiers. Faster scaling = more health eventually, so toss in another ranged weapon with more stam to balance it out. Of course, playing catch up for 2 tiers only to watch it get balanced the other way again can get frustrating ...

Curiously, engineered goods don't have "crafted by <player name>" tag that other professions get.

This should at least be BoE so that Blacksmiths who went armor (they thought that they needed that more for tanking) would have been able to at least get the mats for this...although, I think bliz is going to add a lot of early ranged weaps for tanks, because it seems almost unfair to have such a great weapon like this be solely for tanking, yet under engineering.

First off, GBKD is boe and you can have any engineer make it for you and thats the point he is trying to make. Second, Any warrior who is "serious" about tanking is not always going to choose engineering just to get some googles and a trinket cause essentially that is all your getting, while the googles are good there is plenty of alternatives and there is lots of alternatives to that trinket ( See Commendation of Kael'thas from Heroic MGT and the trinkets from Netherwing reputation which have higher stam among other things. Blacksmithing actually offers more for a tank than engineering when

If your truly "Serious" about tanking as a warrior you would go both blacksmithing and engineering and have a max mining alt to do your mining for you. Thats what I did and I get the best of both worlds.

Except if you're a tank from the old days where you have Herbalism / Alchemy, when you could have flask of fort, elixir of mongoose and all this other @#$% on at the same time; Before potions were devalued hardcore. I really don't wanna lose all my Rare Alchemy recipes and bleh.

When did this change to BoE?

Mining profession gives you 500hp alone.

A clever tank's first epic item @ 80... Dont miss it =D

Nes[i][/i]tingway, not to be confused with Nesingwary

18[b]1 - 337 [/b]Damage (Aww,buffed)

It's über über 1337!

18 translates to AH if you take the 1st and 8th letters of the alphabet, making this the AH-1337 gun. Seems appropriate.

Or perhaps " I B 1337" ?

id say its i b leet or else 1337 would mean something diferent when its put on order of alphabet

It now has 69 as it's low-end. So there's that?

Yet again, epic warrior TANK gun for engineers. Only this time, it's made more blatantly obvious now that it includes Defense in its stats.I mean... it's a gun made especially for just ONE class, particularly for their one tank spec. Instead... they could've modified it so that it was a somewhat more DPS-oriented item... but with a significant amount of STM... or better yet, 2-3 sockets to allow for anyone that can use a gun to wield it for whatever purpose. And in that manner, it'd be something Hunter/Rogues/Warriors could use... THREE classes, not ONE class. I suppose the matter is moot anyway... for the time being it appears to be BoP... so you can't even try to sell it unlike the GBKD. Also... (assuming the T in Nestingwary is a typo)... Nesingwary's a Hunter no? What kinda hunter wields a blatant tank gun? No wonder the guy has you go around killing all sorts of beasts in STV, Nagrand, and now Northrend. >_>

I doubt it's a typo. Both Blizzard and Wowhead are very careful of what they put into print. Not to mention the fact that it's NestingWAY, not Nestingwary.

Well would u prefer if blizz made, like u mentioned, sockets in it so it ended up sucking for all classes in question. Or maybe they could make a tanking weapon, that only 1 talent tree from 1 class could use, drop from a boss therefore using an item slot instead of a dps ranged weapon drop? TBH its better this way where prot warriors that are serious about tanking can get and the other classes get their dps items drop from bosses But im not complaining since my warrior has both BS+engi and as a tank im sure it wont be hard to find gps to get any tanking guns/bows from bosses.

The problem isn't that this is crafted -- it's that it's currently the ONLY ranged epic that is, just like GBKD was. How would War/Pal/Sham/DK Blacksmiths feel if the only BoP epic weapon they could make was a 3.00 speed stat stick for Hunters? That's how Hunters feel about this item. Engineering could have a Stormherald-like signature weapon for us and we're given nothing.

Except blacksmithing implies crafting weapons and armor. Engineering implies crafting mechanical things and such, and guns happen to be among those. Engineering isn't a "guncrafting" profession per se.

[quote=Rutina]The problem isn't that this is crafted -- it's that it's currently the ONLY ranged epic that is, just like GBKD was.[/quote] Not any more. Behold: [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44504]Long-range Cranium Drill[/url].

Socket this baby with a [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=36767]Solid Dragon's Eye[/url] 89 Stamina 21 Defense 18 Hit

/drewl

FFS. "Binds when picked up"? Now Warrior tanks must clear an End-game instance in wotlk to get a better item instead of that baby? (Like: Rifle Of The Stoic Guardian > Gyro-Balanced Khorium Destroyer. But Nothing is better than G-B. K. D. until BT)

[quote=germieb]First off, GBKD is boe and you can have any engineer make it for you and thats the point he is trying to make. Second, Any warrior who is "serious" about tanking is not always going to choose engineering just to get some googles and a trinket cause essentially that is all your getting, while the googles are good there is plenty of alternatives[/quote] I know this isn't the place for this debate, but I'll stop you right there. For tanking, you won't get better than the goggles until the [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33421]Battleworn Tuskguard[/url]. Even t5 is not better than the goggles. [quote] and there is lots of alternatives to that trinket ( See Commendation of Kael'thas from Heroic MGT and the trinkets from Netherwing reputation which have higher stam among other things. Blacksmithing actually offers more for a tank than engineering when you consider Blazefury, Red Havoc Boots, and the fury belt from the SSC pattern.[/quote] Blazefury is nice, but for an actual tank weapon it's only on par with King's Defender. And comparing rare drops from a t5 instance to stuff learned at a trainer isn't really a comparison. [quote] A warrior black smith gains the following bennifits: Shield Spikes, Sharpening Stones (important for doing damage), [/quote] The other stuff has been addressed, so I'll take these. Anyone can have these benefits. No one uses a shield spike for raiding anyway. Sharpening stones are not bop and can be bought by anyone. As someone else mentioned, the ideal thing is to get a miner alt and then take both professions on your warrior. In TBC, BS isn't that great for tanking to be honest. In Wrath, I dare say you will definitely want both professions.

Is it just me or have blizzard changed it into bind on equip? If any beta tester would be nice enough to confirm this I'd be a happy tank.

It is indeed Bind on Equip on the current version of the Beta server.

I hope that isn't the final model.

Well, they renamed it from Nestingway to Nesingwary... so that confirms it. Nesignwary is in fact a Huntard. Making a gun with Defense... pft. No wonder he makes YOU take all those big game hunting quests. All kidding aside, this has become a BoE item, and they've also added another Epic Gun that is in fact itemized for Physical DPS classes. [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44504]Long-range Cranium Drill[/url]. As a side note, I think that one should be called Nesignwary instead... but anyway, good to see that there's two sets of guns this time rather than restricting engineers to making one gun for only one spec.

[quote]My only comment is this... why does blizzard give the guns with the fastest speed's to tanks? BM Hunter's love fast damage, this and Rifle of the Stoic Gaurdian http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=32325 are the range weapons with the fastest speed...and I know this sin't a coincidence, some sick #$%^er is doing this on purpose...[/quote] Well c'mon, think about it for a second hmm? Tanks dont stand there shooting continuosly unlike hunters, they just need to shoot once to pull usually. With slower guns means longer shooting cast time, precious mini seconds that can sometimes cause a moving patrol to aggro any groups nearby because they got too close to them. With a faster gun those type of situations will happen less. It makes perfect sense to me, I in fact have a warrior tank and have had it happen once or twice. You didnt really think a tank would stand there shooting again and again did ya? :P

What is with Blizz's prejudice against triggers?

It shoots mind bullets!

I think that stick on the back is meant to be a lever of some sort, could just be me though.

Whats up with the model? It looks like a gnomish joke... If I am going to be farming all those materials I want something that looks a little more hardcore. ... a trigger would be nice too.

The model is awesome, looks like a sawed off shotgun, also contrary to Khorium tank gun, this offers a blue socket, defense, AND hit rating :) I think with all the boe things engineers can currently craft, it is gonna be a very profitable porefession for a change

Good to see this tanking gun has a blue socket. the yellow socket and socket bonus on http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=32756 was often just ignored for the 15 or 18 stamina gems for tanking. Just always annoyed me :P

Slap a Solid Majestic Zircon (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=40119) on this and you've got +78 stam on a GUN. That's just sick! I'm SO going to get this on my warrior!

I really hope they change the graphic. The [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44504]Nesingwary 4000[/url] graphic (the graphic this gun used to have) looks so much better.

Anyone else thing it looks like a transformer from the front? There's a face there and everything!

You're right, it's more than meets the eye.

[quote]18[b]1[/b] -[b] 337[/b] Damage[quote][/quote][/quote] Continuing on with that line of thought for a moment, if you "translate" this from 1337speak to normal language, you would get "I b leet". Wonder if it's intentional or just coincidence :P

This gun and the Consortium rep gun from BC have more going on animation-wise than any other weapon ive seen. It actually has 3 barrels, which you can see rotate from the side in order to let them cool off. You can also see the 3 barrels from the front, which Blizzard has made to look like a face, 2 eyes at the top and the firing barrel at the bottom " breathing fire and blowing smoke " as the mouth.

This gun's model has actually been in game since pre-BC, it was the original model for the Blastershot Launcher from MC, but was never implemented. Back when it was still possible to modify in-game models via overwriting local texture files, I had swapped out the texture on my blastershot to this, as it looks about 100x cooler than the generic double-barrel shotgun model that they stuck with for some reason. Definitely one of my favorite weapon models in the game, the firing animation is especially awesome.

If you look close at the rotating orange crystal you can see a panda face or maybe i'm just crazy

your not crazy there is a panda there

Maybe Samwise's signature :3