Frostweave Bag

Go and stock up on [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38082]"Gigantique" Bag[/url]s :P

It should only be 16 days, not 32. Mooncloth, Spellcloth and Shadowcloth don't have the same cooldown on live, and I don't see why they'd make Moonshroud and Ebonweave share a cooldown either.

[b]Sorry i deleted my post by misstake. Jetstream was replying to that post. Yea your right about 16 days cooldown, my misstake. [/b] I wrote something like: [quote]It will be more like Primal Mooncloth Bag [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=56005]Glacial Bag[/url] 4x[url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=56002]Ebonweave[/url] 4x[url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=56001]Moonshroud[/url] 1x[url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=38426]Eternium Thread[/url] This makes up to a total of 16days/bag cooldown if you not specced or trade them. You can get down to 8days/bag cooldown if you trade [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=56003]Spellweave[/url] for the ones needed. So you might consider farming gold now for [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=38082]"Gigantique" Bag[/url] But since it's only in beta yet, we can only speculate. They can still change alot until it goes live. [/quote]

This bag, seemingly the 'basic' tailoring bag of WotLK, is significantly more difficult to make than the Burning Crusade equivalent was, [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=21841]Netherweave Bag[/url] (24 netherweave cloth and 50s - easily and cheaply mass produced). This bag requires 90 [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=33470]Frostweave Cloth[/url] to make the 6 Bolts if imbued.

No doubt Blizzard are reluctant to have everybody running around with full 20 slot bags.

However, for those with a bit of cash and a of need the extra bagspace, this will be well worthwhile and cheaper than the [url=http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=21876]Burning Crusade 20 slot bag.[/url]

Once Patch 3.0.8 comes out, the prices will go down per bag:

Bolt of Imbued Frostweave now requires 2 Bolt of Frostweave instead of 3;

You still need 6 bolts of Imbued to make the bag; Since each bolt of Imbued Frostweave = 2 bolts of Frostweave and 1 bolt of Frostweave = 5 Frostweave cloth, the new total cloth needed now will go from 90 frostweave cloth to 60 frostweave cloth.

To buy the mats on the AH: (all prices are from the average wowhead price; server prices may vary): If cloth is about 1g , the Infinite dust is 5g and the thread (3g each) from the venders:

[ul]TOTALS: + 60 total frostweave cloth (60*1g = 60g) + 12 Infinite dust for the Imbued FW (12*5g= 60g) + 2 thread(2* 3g= 6g) [/li]

= about 126g to make, depending on the cloth and Infinite dust market prices on your server; My server, cloth is a tad higher, but dust is coming down.

Tailors should sell for 150-175g each bag - check and recalc your prices per your server mat costs; If you get the mats yourself and ask a tailor to make, don't forget a tip :D [/ul]

Your server is pretty expensive. On mine the average price for a frostweave bag is 75 gold. I just bought 6 of them at 70 gold each.

Just some quick math now that the bags are only 60 cloth each (blatantly copied and edited from blupache's earlier post): For 4 bags (one character's inventory) - 240 Frostweave Cloth (12 stacks) - 48 Infinite Dust (2 stacks & 8) - 8 Eternium Thread For a full bank (seven slots) - 420 Frostweave Cloth (21 stacks ) - 84 Infinite Dust (4 stacks & 2) - 14 Eternium Thread Hence for one toon go from zilch to fully decked out (4 in inventory, 7 slots in the bank) - 660 Frostweave Cloth (33 stacks) - 132 Infinite Dust (6 stacks & 12) - 22 Eternium Thread (1 Stack & 2) And as an aside bags are currently 85-90g on my server (frostmourne (oceanic)). I'm expecting this to go down to reflect the lessened cloth price, as they were about this price for the last few weeks.

[small]In it's most basic form, the materials required for one [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41599]Frostweave Bag[/url] are: [60] [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33470]Frostweave Cloth[/url], [12] [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34054]Infinite Dust[/url][/small]

I don't get understand how people can sell these bags for 90g. On my server (Boulderfist-US) it's a bargain to buy a stack of Frostweave for 10g. Usually they go for 13 - 15 gold. Infinite dust is about 5 - 6 gold. So going by Striker511's calculations: 60 Frostweave cloth = 3 stacks * 10g = 30g 12 Infinite Dust * 5g = 60g 2 Eternium Thread * 3g = 6g So the cost to make is 96g, and notice I used the lowest mat cost possible. Now explain to me how in the world are people selling these for 90g at the AH? It makes no sense. Even if they are farming the mats you are losing money because you can sell the raw mats for more. Am I missing something here or are some people really bad with math / money?

The goal of making these for most people isn't to sell them for a profit, but to level tailoring. These are still the easiest way to level tailoring for a long time and a loss of 10 gold for a level is the smallest loss out of a lot of the possible things you could make, except for the rare cloths which have a four day cooldown each.

People might not sell the individual mats on the AH because of the huge amount of those mats for sale - meaning your auction might not sell fast, if at all. Essentially, if raw mats were 100g and bags are selling for 90g, you ultimately pay 10g for the very high liquidity of the bag.

Worth it in my opinion.

[b]very[/b] good point.

[b]Bigger Bags:[/b] Glacial Bag - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41600 "Gigantique" Bag - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38082 Dragon Hide Bag - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43345

For the price of one "Gigantique" Bag - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38082 you could buy enough Frostweave Bags right off the AH to deck out a toon and their bank and still have 100+ gold left.

the time and cost of 1 Glacial Bag - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41600 or the roll grind of Dragon Hide Bag - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43345 in OC .. I think Frostweave bag is your best bet.

you can now add [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49295]Enlarged Onyxia Hide Backpack[/url] to that list from Onyxia in 3.2.2

Haris Pilton will be selling a new, even bigger bag in 3.3, the Portable Hole 24-slotter, for the low low price of 3k gold. http://www.wow.com/2009/11/07/patch-3-3-haris-piltons-got-a-brand-new-bag

In 3.3 first boss in Forge of Souls drops http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50316 (in normal and hc modes)

A reason that some people can sell these bags for what might seem like less than mat price is if they are enchanters and have a lot of infinite dust lying around. I always level my tailoring before enchanting so I haven't used all my dust to enchant stuff that could go into making imbued frostweave.

Also note, that this is the cheapest way to level your tailoring, maybe you loose 10g for each bag. This means it is still a lot cheaper than level tailoring with anything else.

These bags are relatively huge enough. They can hold[u] 20[/u] different weapons. They can hold [u]200[/u] 10 stack trade goods. They can hold [u]400[/u] 20 stack trade goods. They can hold [u]2000[/u] 100 stack reputation medallions (Assuming there isn't any trade goods with such a stack). And they hold [b][u]5000[/u][/b] 250 stack reputation medallions, or whatever.

These things are quite big, I just wanted to put an emphasis on it. Just imagine the things you could do with a 22 slot :D

[small]Here is a complete breakdown of materials for Frostweave Bag as noone has posted it.

[b]1[/b] [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41599]Frostweave Bag[/url] [u]___[/u] [b]2[/b] [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38426]Eternium Thread[/url] [u]___[/u] [b]6[/b] [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41511]Bolt of Imbued Frostweave Cloth[/url] [u]_____[/u] [b]12[/b] [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34054]Infinite Dust[/url] [u]_____[/u] [b]12[/b] [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41510]Bolt of Frostweave[/url] [u]________[/u] [b]60[/b] [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33470]Frostweave Cloth[/url][/small]

This is the quick-summary post I was looking for, thank you. So basically, three stacks of Frostweave cloth and 12 dust per bag.

this helped me very much.. thank you for post

[quote]Tailors should sell for 150-175g each bag - check and recalc your prices per your server mat costs; If you get the mats yourself and ask a tailor to make, don't forget a tip :D[/quote]Your calculation is both right and wrong... While the price for the mats are resonable, you will NEVER get over 100g for a bag.. Average price is around 80g. This is a classic example of "mats are more expensive than the finished product".. You see it for more or less every crafted BoE item in game..

If you are buying the mats yourself then it costs about 85 gold (on Frostwhisper horde, 30.8.09). The bags themselves already made are currently costing 88g. Add in the cost of the thread and its currently more expensive to make them yourself than to buy :-P (assuming you are buying mats ofc and not gathering yourself).

There's also the value of potential skill-ups; you can build your tailoring skill from 410 to 440 with about 35 bags*, and they're far more liquid than Duskweave armor or other skill-grinding patterns. On my server, it's also cheaper to buy Dust than to craft and disenchant Duskweave stuff, but your mileage may vary. I made a deal with my guildies that 3 stacks of Frostweave + 1 Wrath green = 1 Frostweave Bag (At skill level 480, I'd offer a similar deal for Embersilk Bags). They get reasonably cheap bags, I get reasonably cheap skill points. I'm eating the cost of thread and some of the

which makes perfect sense as these can be used to skill-up tailoring.

It depends on local conditions. I bought the mats for 11 bags and paid about 500g. The ready made bags were going for 65g+ I saved over 200g making them myself.

A handy way to do it if you can get cheap/farm cloth is to make a few Duskweave Wristwraps and DE them, they reliably break down into 4-8 Dust (on the odd occasion 1-3 Greater Cosmic Essences). My experience is 2 Wrists usually gives me the 12 dust, so 140 cloth gives me a bag on avg.

[quote]Add in the cost of the thread and its currently more expensive to make them yourself than to buy :-P (assuming you are buying mats ofc and not gathering yourself).[/quote] Actually even if you grind the mats yourself it still 'more expensive'. By 'more expensive' I mean you would have less gold in stock making this bag yourself, since you can sell the mats, buy the bag and end up with more gold.

With the random heroics now, mats for this have gone down considerably.

Price of this has gone from 80-100g on my server to 40g since the advent of the disenchant option.

Seeing as all cloth will have their cooldowns removed in 3.3.3, my realm has been seeing a lack of these bags on the AH. I'm wagering everyone is stockpiling [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33470]Frostweave Cloth[/url] just waiting for this change. It's been a few weeks since I've seen a [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41599]Frostweave Bag[/url] on the AH. It would be a good time to post some for extra gold if your realm is short on them.

Lame question maybe, though I'm starting to doubt, so here it goes.. Can anyone confirm that they've created these from skill level 448 till 450? 'Cause I've made over 20 now, and I'm still where I started, at 449. Annoys the crap out of me! D:< Cheers, :o)

Where are these dropped at?

some how in dalaran trainer doesn't show in the train list. do you guys another options to learn it?

You probably already know it!

I agree with Alicy, the price of these bags has skyrocketed. on my server mats cost about 170-200g to make a bag, and i have sold them for 350g. I wonder if the old days of 50g will every return.

i doubt it, frostweave is not as easy to come by anymore because people aren't constantly grinding in areas where it drops.

My server, most people have a ton of money I guess. There was a bag on the AH for 1300g that actually sold. I know what my tailor is doing this week!

these are going for roughly 150-300g per bag on Duskwood. glacials are around 300+, and abysal/embersilk bags are the same as glacials...if not more. and I doubt the price of these will go down anytime soon.

Sellinfor 200g on my server for 1 bag - i found a guy who said with my mats, he charges 100g... ppl are greedy T_T

On Ghostlands i see these regularly got for 200+g and its insane Nets me a nice profit though when i sell them.

These sell for 500g on my server (Dragonmaw EU) now days. i - n - s - a - n - e.

The Frostweave Bag isn't a good as the 20-slot Bag, because you can use the 20-slot Bag at level 1. But you can't with the Frostweave bag.

My server, Emerald Dream, they're going for about 350g-375g. I got to this point in tailoring, and I made 9 of them (I made as many as I had the frostweave for, and that was nine). There were a bunch for 375g but only from one person, so I undercut to 360g, and all of my sold. The first few came slow, but I went to bed last night, and here I am, waking up not even 6 hours later, and they are all sold! I checked the AH again and there were a few that were lower than what I had put them up for, but I made just over 3000g off those.

If you're looking for a spot to get the frostweave easily, because 60 per bag adds up quick, go to this spot:

http://www.wowhead.com/maps?data=210:424563

and just farm there(pretty much that whole area, from where those huge skeleton guys are, to where you start hitting the walls of the bridge and stuff up at the north side). Kill the contended heroes, I believe that's what they are called. There's groups of them walking around. Just kill the groups. If you kill them all, just wait like 5 min, they will be there again. As a mage at 85 I just used arcane explosion until they died, took just a few seconds.

It really helps if you have "The Guide to Northern Cloth Finding". I have to go, so just search it on here, it helps you in finding cloth. It says it's only for humanoids, and these guys aren't humanoids, but it helps, trust me. Unless it's this great of a drop rate normally.

I got about 400 frostweave in 30 min!

Good luck guys.

Summary of total mats needed for 1 frostweave bag if you're just looking to farm it: 60 frostweave cloth 12 infinite dust 2 eternium thread (The 60 cloth and 12 infinite dust combine to make 6 bolts of imbued frostweave cloth.) On Norgannon the bags are going for about 275g on AH at this time. Farming the mats is done very quickly up in Icecrown. You can disenchant the greens you pick up or ask an enchanter friend. I'm farming and sending these mats to a tailor guildie instead of spending my money on the AH. If you don't mind grinding for a half hour or so in Northrend that's the way to go.

Still an easy moneymaker, years after Wrath of the Lich King.

I can farm enough cloth and greens for disenchant to make about 20 of these babies in just two hours. At 200g+(I have yet to see it dip under 200g, generally 200-240g on my server), they're a HUGE moneymaker for me. Here are the two places I farm for mats(with northrend cloth scavenging). Both places are courtesy of wow-professions frostweave cloth farming guide. Naxx. Plague quarter. Go in, 25man, clear everything up to the first boss. kill the first boss. The mobs you'll be farming are the mobs in between first and second boss(DO NOT KILL SECOND BOSS.) Run outside. Switch to 10man.(if you don't put it in 25man to begin with, you'll glitch it up. Nobody knows why. Mystery!) Farm the mobs in between first and second boss. My hunter can clear this five times, right up to the reset limit, in about 20 minutes. You'll get an insane amount of frostweave cloth and greens(I typically end up with 25-30 greens in this 20 minutes. Bonus points if you're a chanter, because you'll usually get 2-3 epics as well, which can be disenchanted for abyss crystals, which can be shattered for even more dust!) Mail all that crap to an alt, you'll need the bag space. Your hearth should be shrine or dalaran as an easy go-between. The spot you'll be farming while waiting for naxx to come off cooldown is in Icecrown, just to the west of Ymirheim(the center of the map). Half the section is dedicated to random ghouls, skeletons, and geists that don't drop for crap. Ignore those. Above them, you'll be farming those groups of 7 Converted Heroes. Simple. Get into the grind, keep killing these groups, best spot I've found for farming frostweave(except for naxx). I'll end up with 120ish frostweave bolts' worth of frostweave by the time naxx is ripe again. (you might no get quite this much here- I had the benefit of being able to phase into a low-pop realm regularly whenever I found an empty gap. However, they respawn very quickly, and it is still an extremely wonderful spot!) TIPS: Empty your bags 100%, with the exception of a few stacks of frostweave. Use these pieces to place 1 piece of frostweave cloth in every bag space available. This way, when you're autolooting, you will automatically loot all the frostweave, while leaving behind the junk. Keep an eye out for greens, when you're in naxx- whenever some greens drop, just toss an appropriate number of individual cloth pieces into a stack, and replace the spots with the greens. Very neat, very tidy, no wasted bag spots!