Master Riding

As we know, artisan riding will be removed in shadowlands. If you have 280% flying in the Shadowlands prepatch, you still need to shell out the gold for 310% riding.

@coyote72 :All mounts that previously allowed you to fly at 310% have been converted to standard flying mounts, it is your skill that determines your flight speed.

Don't buy this skill if you're almost done with the What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been (Alliance Counterpart).

We are going to be adding a hotfix for the achievement What A Long, Strange Trip It's Been. This hotfix will make it so that obtaining the Reins of the Violet Proto-Drake will award players Master riding.

Source: Official Blue post

One detail to consider is that with Master Riding, every one of your flying mounts will go at max 310 speed. Miss your old 150% speed gryphon? That old bird'll do full speed now. Same thing with lower-level crafted mounts, such as the Engineering flying machine (the easier-to-build low level one). Sometimes the biggest flying mounts are a pain to deal with, and so a smaller flying critter can land you in places a drake can't even get into.

I've also done some speed measures using the Titan Bar add-on with my hunter, who has Pathfinding. Rate is clocked at 451%, which is consistent with:

100% = normal fastest running
+310% = mount w/Master Riding skill
+ 10% = Hunter Pathfinding (non-stacking)
+ 31% = Guild level 3 'Mount Up!' bonus

Just want to say the violet protodrake no longer awards master riding.

I did some math using TomTom range and times... with the guild mount bonus and a fast flying mount you go 2000 yards per minute which is about 64 miles per hour!

For everyone who is unsure how movement speed in WoW works:

The speed listed in your buffs, (e.g 310), is how much faster you're going compared to basic run speed.

Knowing this, Master Riding is about

9.7% faster than Artisan Riding
51.6% faster than Expert Riding

Things like Crusader Aura are applied afterwards increasing the total speed by the % listed, which in this case would be 20% which is not 330%.
20% of 310 is 62, so with crusader aura Master Riding increases your speed by 372%.

Hope this clears some of this confusion up.

A Blizzard poster said 310 is the fastest possible based on technical limitations. Basically if they offered something like +410% faster, the server would not be able to send updates to the client fast enough (to show things like creatures, objects as you get close to them). It requires more bandwidth and processing for both their servers and players. Now I actually think they could bump it up a little bit, but probably not without increasing the minimum requirements to something like "requires 1Mbps or faster broadband". This is because I know some players with slower internet speeds and some

Interesting note: after training Master Riding I found my mount speed was still only 280%. Before entering a ticket I thought I would try logging out/in. However as I mounted back up I noticed the flying speed was now listed correctly at 310%. So if you are mounted when you train up, be sure to dismount/remount to reset your flying speed before you freak out.

The only one that does award Master Level Riding is the Violet Protodrake, from What a Long Strange Road It's Been. 5k or a year. Take your pick.

It's just a gold sink. You don't have to buy it, it's a luxury and not needed.

@AkodoRyu: was the exact comment i was looking for

The discount (for Horde at least) is from Wind Rider Sabamba... if you are Exalted with the Warsong Offensive it's only 4,000g ;)

All ground and flying mounts now scale up to your highest riding/flying speed. You don't need Master Riding before you can enjoy this feature.

I just obtained Violet Proto Drake from what a long strange ... achiev

You will gain Master Riding only after you mount the Proto Drake

I don't know if it applies for other Proto Drakes but it sure does for this one, as Blizzard said it's a hot fix ( for the momment)

The gladiator mounts also teach you master riding.

Maybe you guys can help alleviate my confusion. So the speed with master riding is +310%? Im confused because I haven't bought this yet, so I'm only at Artisan. However, when I'm flying on my X-53 Touring Rocket or my Albino Drake, my carbonite map shows I'm cruising at +310% now. I'm so confused x.x

The Master Riding skill comes at the hefty training cost of 5000g and you gain the Breaking The Sound Barrier achievement. Stormwind/Orgrimmar rep discounts apply since patch 3.2.2.

If your guild is level 3 or more you get the guild perk Mount Up and allows those with Artisan Riding to effectively travel at 310%. No need to purchase Master Riding unless you have the gold to burn.

Actually, while your mounted speed is INCREASED by 280%, your total speed is 380% (run speed being 100% of course) With this skill your total speed will be 410% 30/380 = 7.89% increase in speed

*No *No *Yes *Yes Basically, if you had any 310% mount in WotlK you get the Master Riding (310%) for free on all your mounts!

Here in lies my question: If you buy master riding do you need to buy artisan riding or is Master Riding the equivalent of both?

u can not buy master riding without first buying artisan riding. Master riding requires skill lvl 300 before purchase.

All that questing in Uldum must be filling peoples bags with sand, as of 4.0.6, trying to stuff a mount back in there kicks up a dust cloud.

Master Riding costs
5000g at Neutral
4750g at Friendly
4500g at Honored
4250g at Revered
4000g at Exalted

I have the Iron Bound Protodrake and received Master Riding so it works with any 310% mount.

Posted under the achievement as well, but figured I'd repost here.

If you have Master Riding, you can between Stormwind and Ironforge faster than using the Deeprun Tram sometimes.

Tested with my warrior. Took 2min and 11 seconds to fly from SW Dwarven District to IF bank mailbox.

Unless you get on Deeprun Tram right when you zone in, it'll take you longer (took my DK 2min 56 seconds via the Tram).

Crusader Aura and other speed buffs (e.g. guild perks) will make this even faster of course.

You seem to be confused by the tooltip in your character pane and forgetting that your base movement speed starts at 100%, not 0. The movement speed tooltip has always said 410% if you had a 310% mount since it's just taking your mount's speed and adding it to your base to show you your total speed. If Master Riding had been bumped to 410% speed your tooltip would display 510%.

For the people searching for this...
The 280% flight speed, Artisan Riding, has been removed in the latest Shadowlands.

These are the only riding available in the game.
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Name

Mount Speed

Level Requirement

Apprentice Riding

60%

10

Journeyman Riding

100%

20

Expert Riding

150%

30

Artisan Riding

280%

REMOVED

Master Riding

310%

40

He meant that after the Riding training was introduced, the only way to get the training besides buying it is to complete the year long achievement.

Ok... here is what I want to know and so far I haven't seen a definitive answer on it. My mage has Reins of the Icebound Frostbrood Vanquisher, a 310% flight speed mount. What is going to happen with my hard earned mount in Cata?

Is this mount going to be reduced to 280% speed?
Will I have to shell out 4K gold to get my 310% speed back?
Will players with pre-cata 310% speed mounts get to keep their 310% speed without requiring Master riding?
Will Master riding be awarded to players who own 310% pre-cata mounts that are not from What A Long, Strange Trip It's Been ?

Master Riding is just like all other skills, you must own all the ones that come before it. You can't get master riding without all the other ridings as well (Apprentice, Journeyman, Expert, Artisan). As well, any faction that has a riding trainer that offers master riding can have their prices lowered by 250g per reputation teir. At exalted the price goes from 5000g to 4000g.

Anyone know how fast the Flight Master birds are? Wondering if it's faster than Master Riding or if we can use our mounts to go everywhere just as fast.

By Schmoofadoop 4 days ago (Patch 4.0.1) The discount (for Horde at least) is from Wind Rider Sabamba... if you are Exalted with the Warsong Offensive it's only 4,000g ;)

Confirmed for ally u can buy it for 4k in Borean tundra, w/ maigra keenfeather

appreciate it! thanks

If you have done What A Long Strange Trip, you must actually use (not just learn) the Violet Proto Drake to get the Master Riding skill.

My question is: If you did not have a %310 flying Mount, and it does infact cost you 5k gold to fly that fast... can you still obtain and learn/use a mount that would go %310 speed?

I'm very close to getting a couple Proto Drakes (Violet from Hallow's End, Icc10 Heroic, and Red Proto) and I have epic flying just not the Epic epic flying, so will I still be able to use these awesome ones? I don't care if they still go %280 as long as I can hop on.

Except for the fact that the 20% should be calculated over your total movement speed (and not just the mounted speed increase), which is 410% Speed increase would be: 410 / (100 * 5) = 82 Total riding speed with Crusader Aura would be: 410 + 82 = 492% Ergo, it would be like flying a 392% mount. Look it up on the Crusader Aura page. It's been explained there as well :)

why do i need to spend 4k gold to go 8% faster? if you are trying for a realm first achievement, then maybe it is worth it, but for the rest of us it is a waste of money.

You don't need it but it means that you'll spend less time flying and more time doing things that you want to do. After all, as our goblin friends say, "Time is money, friend." Imagine having to go to work IRL every day on a donkey while your neighbour travels to the same place in a Ferrari. He's already had two coffees, finished that report that's due tomorrow and attended a meeting about when the next meeting will be held while you're still plodding through traffic. If you have the gold to spare it should be a no-brainer.

This page looks like it needs updating....

confirmed! thanks

Patch 3.2.2 changed the faction discounts for the riding skill vendors in Honor Hold and Thrallmar to use Stormwind and Orgrimmar faction, respectively (source). This change applies to all levels of riding training.

Ive just bought Master Riding and is working fine on all my mounts.

Works just like ground mounts. You have to buy each riding skill lowest to highest. So yes, you need to buy all the riding skills before you can buy this last master riding skill

So I have 280% flying speed, and I can't find the Master riding skill anywhere. Upon talking to the pandaren flying trainer in vale of eternal blossoms, he tells me I have every other riding skill, but not the master one. And he doesn't offer it to me. Neither does the riding trainer in Orgrimmar, despite being exalted with the faction. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?

EDIT:
The flying trainer in Dalaran had master riding skill, problem solved :)

Yes you don't 'need' to but you will be flying considerably slower. I fly at 418% on my druid which is insanely fast. I couldn't bare to fly at a max of 150%... DK's can even fly up to 492% speed. That's more than 3 times faster than you.

same at thrallmar ;)

I'm not sure if anyone else has this problem and I've for it in the patch notes and on the support form for WoW, but I couldn't find anything so, I bought Master Riding about 2 days after Patch 4.0.1 came out and my 310% flying didn't work so I figured it wasn't implemented yet, but now its nearly time for Cataclysm's release and I still go my 280%. Is there something I missed?

"Master Riding can be trained at the cost of 5,000 and can be discounted based on reputation from any race's faction trainer to the maximum discounted cost of 4,000 (at Exalted reputation).

For example, training cost with the Orc trainer Kildar can be reduced based on the player's Orgrimmar reputation. Players are required to train Riding at their respective race's trainer unless Exalted with another race or visiting an Outland/Northrend trainer."

Can't sayit any better then it does.

The ground speed of mounts most likely remains unchanged because of the effect it would have on PvP. Changing mount speeds would significantly alter battlegrounds.

have to ask, is this as fast as the taxi mounts in terms of speed? (i know its faster to fly in a straight line, so sometimes easier to fly yourself, but actual speed is...)