This has got to be the epitome of bad writing by blizz dating all the way back to Legion. It still bothers me how blizz writes the Nightborne as the victims in all this mess.
You talk to Thalyssra and she's all like "the Kaldorei still resent us because of Elisande" and all I can think of is "YOU JOINED THE HORDE!". The very same faction that later burned down their home and nearly wiped out an entire civilization. Yet she accuses the night elves of "arrogance" and "mistrust". And everything we went through with Garrosh, please excuse some of us if we're a bit skeptical of Horde leadership decisions. Also, being a night elf player myself, I'm getting sick of being viewed as the bad guys when the blood elves have done far worse and they get all the praise for being so "good and honorable".
Let's recap what happened:
Elisande made a deal with the Legion and was willing to destroy Azeroth to ensure her people's survival (which makes zero sense).
Thalyssra didn't want to see this happen, so she sought help. Both Alliance and Horde sided with Thalyssra to usurp Elisande.
Then when confronted by Tyrande with the possibility that the Nightborne might become "power hungry" and "mad" again, Thalyssra was the one that got all offended and joined the Horde, enemy of the Alliance, essentially becoming the very thing that Tyrande was afraid they would, an enemy of the Alliance. Don't forget, the Alliance and Horde were still pretty much pissed at each other after coming out of Pandaria. Not to mention with Sylvanas becoming warchief, everything she was doing was driving a wedge between both factions anyway and what little bit of cooperation they may have had.
Let's also not forget that the entire Nightborne society is essentially a hierarchy who look down on lesser races and believe that everyone is beneath them. They would never accept night elves into their society. It'd be like inviting hippies to a party hosted by oil tycoons.
So, I don't get why she's so upset that the night elves don't trust her and furthermore, blizz needs to quit with this BS victim mentality. They KNEW what they were doing when Elisande made her deal, it's not like they were completely oblivious to it otherwise there would have been an uprising long before Thalyssra started it.
At least Occuleth has had some sense to see the choice to join the Horde was wrong. I'm surprised he's still alive (at least I think he is).
Quest
History Lesson
A World of Warcraft quest in The Den. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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Ok, that was a pretty sweet cinematic, and nice to see Liandrin looking like an actual elf again.
Hi all
I present You a Storyline [storyline=6050] that is part of The Curse of Ula'tek Achievement. That Storyline start from 08.07.2026.
Please See My Video with all Quests from this storyline if Need It - https://youtu.be/RQOBTTFu56Y
All Quests from [storyline=6050]:
1. The Preparations Are Complete - Press on Adventure Guide Shift-J -> Suggested content -> and 'Accept Quest' call [storyline=6050] for storyline to star. Or You can skipp this and go from 2nd quest xD.
2. Hagar's Invitation - Go to Harandar and in main base speak with Orweyna /way 44.11 53.53 inside cave,
3. History Lesson - speak with 6 delegates:
/way 42.15 48.95,
/way 42.65 43.11,
/way 45.56 44.15,
/way 49.82 41.69,
/way 48.40 54.45,
/way 44.39 57.00,
Then speak with Quest giver and Movie will start. After You finish this Quest You will get [item=246731] NICE :D
4. A Favor for Kinduru - Speak with NPCs: /way 44.39 48.03 and /way 49.33 42.11 and/or just with /way 54.44 52.49, After that fly to /way 38.79 46.77,
5. Revisionist History - First press on [npc=255234] /way 37.55 47.71, then slay mobs or heal injured untill 100%. Then go on circle and use skill from extra bar. then wait when will finish quest to get next one.
6. Return to Zul'Aman - when accept quest w8 for portal then enter it.
7. Amani Answers - search 3 boxes in order at first: /way 17.43 20.06, then /way 15.90 21.83, and last /way 19.41 17.20, after press on last one will come out [npc=253833] You need to caught it.
Then Speak with [npc=237301] and collect 2 tools: /way 14.51 18.68, and 2nd tool /way 19.48 19.37, then press on [npc=253833] to fix it.
8. The Tablets of Numazon - Fly to crypt /way 39.19 39.02,
9a. There's the Rub - Collect 6 [item=262654] from ground, You can find them: /way 37.99 36.98, /way 38.54 38.25, /way 37.77 37.88, /way 37.33 37.03, /way 36.90 37.83, /way 37.71 38.66,
9b. Brain Drain - Slay mobs inside crypt and loot from them 6 [item=262659] is around 33% drop rate or 25% xD.
11. Mission to Maisara - Fly to 44.50 36.70
12a. Memories of Malacrass - Slay 3 mobs and use on them bodies spell from extra bar. Location: /way 45.36 38.35 inside cottage, /way 46.50 37.95 inside cave, /way 46.47 41.06 inside
12b. Digging Deeper - Pick up 8 [item=262752], You can find them on tables, inside buldings ect i a lot of them around.
14. Maisara Caverns: Master of Souls - You need to do Dungeon [zone=16395] Safe to do it from NPC side fast and ez, just w8 when conversation will finish and then speak with Zul'jan to start it.
From 2nd boss pick up [item=262791] then slay last boss and get out from dungeon after finish.
15. The Serpent Shrine - Fly to Atal'Aman /way #2536 67.71 47.18,
16. Legacy of the Amani - Slay [npc=253858] then Speak to Kinduru - Movie will start.
17. Dead End - Fly to /way 43.78 68.34, and speak with Zul'jarra then:
- pick up [object=628271] /way 43.61 68.35,
- then on 3 circle next to fire use spell from extra bar.
That will finish Quest and You will get [item=268557]. That is finishing Storyline.Hope That Help You :).
Quest facts
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Description
Hagar requested that we invite to this meeting all of the troll and elven leaders we know. It was not easy to convince them to come. There are some... past grievances between these groups. Hagar hopes to overcome these divisions. As we wait for the others to arrive, feel free to speak to the other delegates. The wait is making them restless, so try not to inflame tensions.
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Nearby on the The Den map
- The Home of the Haranir about 180 yards
- Leave Your Mark about 180 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on The Den, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on The Den:
- The Den, Harandar
- Har'athir, Harandar
- Har'alnor, Harandar
From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:
- Objective area
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Storyline
Legacy of the Amani
Part 4 of 18.
Accompany Zul'jan as he uncovers unsettling revelations about the history of the amani.
Previous: Hagar's Invitation · Next: A Favor for Kinduru
- 2The Preparations Are Complete
- 3Hagar's Invitation
- 4History Lesson
- 5A Favor for Kinduru
- 6Revisionist History
- 7Return to Zul'Aman
- 8Amani Answers
- 9The Tablets of Numazon
- 10There's the Rub
- 11Brain Drain
- 12Mission to Maisara
Showing steps 1 to 12 of 18.
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Hagar's Invitation
Hagar has a message she believes the elves and trolls of Azeroth must all hear. She has sent a call to leaders from the elven and troll tribes to come to Harandar. I have come here to ask the blood elves to join us, but you should be there as well. You have been with us through so much of this.
After this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- A Favor for Kinduru
Zul'jarra could not leave Zul'Aman as the Amani still recover. She sent Zul'jan in her stead. She hoped showing trust and giving him dis responsibility would bring him out of her shadow. Make use of his talents. But dis news... I am an old troll.
Other storylines on The Den map
- A Goblin in Harandar
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.