Ok, so much of this conversation just rubs me the wrong way.
Tyrande has every reason to be skeptical of Thalyssra. I mean, would they have any reason not to trust an elven magocrate? Azshara, Elisande, Tortheldrin, Kael'thas and perhaps even Dath'remar doesn't give it a great track record. Thalyssra should be aware of at least the first two, but takes it as a great offense when the night elves take the "let's wait and see" approach.
And then they call the night elves and the Alliance walled off, and chastise the night elves for "sleeping in barrows" while the sin'dorei supposedly fought for to save the world? The nightborne were literally sitting in a bubble for 10.000 years, and the high/blood elves (with the exception of the now scorned Alleria) have shown next to no interest in anything but their own borders until the end of the Sunstrider dynasty and them joining the Horde.
Finally Thalyssra is happy that the Horde allows the blood elves to maintain their traditions as opposed to the night elves who frown upon the powers they dabble in, mere minutes after Lor'themar exiles someone for the powers they dabble in. One has to assume it doesn't come down to openness, but to openness of their traditions.
Quest
Thalyssra's Estate
Quest facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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In case you're looking...no, no portals to be had. You're on your own.
If you have completed Insurrection and are exalted with the [faction=1859] but don't see a quest in the embassy.
You have to acquire the additional achievement Welcome to Zandalar before the quest Thalyssra's Estate becomes visible.
Quest facts
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Requirements
Read from the Blizzard quest API.
Description
Would you like to hear how the nightborne came to join the Horde? We earned their trust when we aided them in liberating Suramar from the tyranny of Grand Magistrix Elisande and the Burning Legion. Lor'themar Theron later asked them to join him in Quel'Thalas. Lady Liadrin made the journey to extend the invitation to First Arcanist Thalyssra...
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Coordinates
- Turn-inSuramar 65.9, 63.7
/way #680 65.9 63.7 - Objective areaOrgrimmar 37.8, 80.7
/way #85 37.8 80.7
Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Nearby on the Suramar map
- Step Into Her Shoes about 220 yards
- If The Shoe Fits... about 220 yards
- The Old Fashioned Way about 390 yards
- Jarl Come Back Now about 390 yards
- Band of Blood Brothers about 400 yards
- Bite of the Sashj'tar about 400 yards
- Beach Bonfire about 400 yards
- Fermented for the Horde about 400 yards
- A Particular Process about 400 yards
- Silkwing Sabotage about 400 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Suramar, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Horde flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Suramar:
- Eastern Suramar
- Crimson Thicket, Suramar
- Thorim's Peak
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Storyline
Allies of the Horde: Nightborne
Part 1 of 4.
Next: Silvermoon City
- 1Thalyssra's Estate
- 2Silvermoon City
- 3Remember the Sunwell
- 4The Nightborne
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
After this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Silvermoon City
The nightborne have been isolated from the world for thousands of years. Now that they have reemerged, it is up to us to guide them along the right path. Regent Lord Theron has extended an invitation to the nightborne to meet with us in Silvermoon.
The storyline at a glance
Allies of the Horde: Nightborne has 4 steps, from Thalyssra's Estate to The Nightborne.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Silvermoon City (2), Suramar (1), Orgrimmar (1).
Steps of this storyline count toward:
Other storylines on the Suramar map
- Blood and Wine
- Balance of Power
- An Elven Problem
- Crafting War
- The Waning Crescent
- Eminent Grow-main
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.

