After completing the quest, the Horde leaders are outside discussing other matters. In particular, Thalyssra seems to be trying to woo Lor'themar!
"Thank you again for leading our forces in Nazjatar alongside me, Thalyssra. Your insight and courage were key to our victory."
"It was an honor, Lor'themar. I am relieved the war is finally over. Now you have no excuse to refuse my invitation to visit Suramar."
"Well, uh... I have been away from Silvermoon for some time. No doubt my people require-"
"Halduron has assured me that Quel'Thalas is quite secure. And Rommath said that if you put up a fuss, he will teleport you to the Nighthold himself."
"(jokingly) It seems my closest allies are conspiring against me!"
"Would it really take a conspiracy for you to spend some time alone with me?"
"No... my lady, it would be my pleasure."
"A sutiably chivalrous answer, Regent Lord. There may be hope for you yet! Perhaps I can even teach you to relish the... simpler joys in life."
"Perhaps you can, First Arcanist. Perhaps you can."Hey, after being trapped in the Suramar bubble for 10,000 years, can you blame her? Also, Baine is giving some council to Rokhan.
"Since da death of Vol'jin, da Darkspear been lookin' ta me ta guide dem. I been fightin' for dem a long, long time... but dat don't mean I deserve ta be their chieftain."
"I felt much the same when my father died. It happened suddenly, and I feared that I was unprepared to take his place. But I was ready, just as you are. You prove that in Zuldazar and at Stromgarde. The Darkspear have faith in you, and so do I."
"Heh. Ya best be stoppin da flattery, Baine, before it be goin to me head. But... da Darkspear do be needin a leader. A voice on da council. And if it gotta be me... den it be me."
"Trust your judgement Rokhan. It has led you this far."
"It be havin a lotta help. From da Darkspear, from da loa... and from da Horde."Thrall is also talking to Gazlow out back.
"Gallywix has fled the city along with the rest of Sylvanas' inner circle. That leaves the Bilgewater Cartel without its Trade Prince. Gazlowe, it was your cleverness and ingenuity that built the walls of Orgrimmar. I can't think of anyone I would trust more to take over as leader."
"A cartel ain't a clan or tribe, Thrall. Steamwheedle, Bilgewater... it don't matter who supplies the cash, so long as the pay's good. 'Under new management' is just another way of sayin' 'oppurtunity's knockin.' So, sure... you got yourself a deal!"
"Can you be sure that none of the goblins here are still being funded by Gallywix?"
"Oh, I guarantee they are. That's why I'm gonna pay 'em MORE than that cheapskate!"Finally, Overlord Geya'rah is confiding in Lilian.
"The Mag'har have never known life without a warchief. I will be hard for them... and for me. But it seems your people have lost a queen as well."
"The Forsaken are torn by turmoil and doubt. Many still love Slyvanas, even after all she has done. Others believe their home remains in the Horde."
"And you? Where do your loyalties lie?"
"Where they always have- with the Forsaken. To be raised into undeath is to be forever haunted by the ghosts of your past. A caring hand can offer comfort through the pain."
"I see no crown upon your head. Are you the new queen they seek?"
"No. I'll speak on my people's behalf, but I won't rule them. There is another I believe will prove better suited to that task... when the time is right."
"The love you hold for your people burns as bright as my own for the Mag'har. I wish you good fortune, Lilian Voss."
"To us all, Overlord."EDIT: Missed one. You can also speak to Dark Ranger Velonara, who shares the view of a former Banshee Loyalist.
"These are interesting times. We dark rangers were fiercely loyal to Sylvanas. We trusted her... followed her commands.
It is clear that our loyalty was never truly reciprocated.
Some of my sisters and brothers have chosen to remain at the Dark Lady's side. I, and many others, have not.
<Velonara's expression becomes steely. Determined.>
I refuse to be a slave to this torment."
Both the sin'dorei and Forsaken are my kin. I stand with them, and with the Horde."
Quest
Warchief of the Horde
A World of Warcraft quest in Orgrimmar. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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Am i the only one who thought that this was somewhat anticlimatic?
So, why is Sylvanas still in Grommash Hold? She should be phased out for players that progressed through the part of the story where she left. Whoever is in charge of Orgrimmar should be there instead, whoever that is.
Quest facts
Check whether you have already completed this quest
in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(58673))
Requirements
Read from the Blizzard quest API.
Description
The meeting to decide the next Warchief of the Horde is about to begin. The other leaders of the Horde have already arrived. They are waiting for you inside the embassy. Speak with me when you are ready, and we will greet the others together.
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Turn-inObjective areaObjective areaIn-game waypoint: /way #85 39.5 79.7
Coordinates
- Turn-inOrgrimmar 39.5, 79.7
/way #85 39.5 79.7 - Objective areaOrgrimmar 39.4, 79.7
/way #85 39.4 79.7
Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Nearby on the Orgrimmar map
- For the Horde same spot
- Choose a Path same spot
- Stranger in a Strange Land about 20 yards
- Together We Are the Horde! about 30 yards
- The Nightborne about 30 yards
- A Choice of Allies about 30 yards
- The Uncorrupted about 30 yards
- Cataclysm: Onward to Adventure in Kalimdor about 170 yards
- An Urgent Request about 170 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Orgrimmar, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Horde flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Orgrimmar:
- Orgrimmar, Durotar
- Nozzlepot's Outpost, Northern Barrens
- Razor Hill, Durotar
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Storyline
Breaking the Cycle
Part 21 of 21.
The Horde faces a time of trial. While the shadow of N'Zoth rises, Warchief Sylvanas Windrunner recalls all those loyal to her vision of the Horde while High Overlord Saurfang does the same.
Previous: A Gathering of Champions
- 10The Eve of Battle
- 11This Ain't Mine
- 12Saving the Siege
- 13Already Among Us
- 14Strategic Deployment
- 15Before the Gates of Orgrimmar
- 16The Price of Victory
- 17Old Soldier
- 18Sense of Obligation
- 19The Hidden Need
- 20A Gathering of Champions
- 21Warchief of the Horde
Showing steps 10 to 21 of 21.
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- A Gathering of Champions
The leaders of the Horde are gathering together in Orgrimmar to nominate a new Warchief of the Horde. As a champion of the Horde, your presence at the meeting has been requested. The gathering will be held at the embassy in Orgrimmar. I will be going on ahead.
The storyline at a glance
Breaking the Cycle has 21 steps, from They Move Against Us to Warchief of the Horde.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Orgrimmar (7), Durotar (5), Durotar (3), Orgrimmar (3).
Steps of this storyline count toward:
Other storylines on the Orgrimmar map
- The Missing Expedition
- Allies of the Horde: Vulpera
- Twilight Highlands
- Lost Honor
- An Uncertain Fate
- Cataclysm Chromie Time Breadcrumbs
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.