To speak with Instructor Tong, go to the Arboretum to pick up the quest that instructs you to speak with Tong
Quest
Beating the Odds
A World of Warcraft quest in The Jade Forest. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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sometimes i get credit for killing these dudes, and sometimes i don't, even tho no one else has tagged them first. i think you need to do more damage than any npc's (serpents) who may be pounding on them...
they are WAY too hard to kill, i am the same level as these dudes, they should go down a LOT faster than they are
Trecman I love voting down trolls. I had not come across this quest yet. but i had decided that i wanted a wind serpent. Phatboi's post helped me to figure out why i was unable to get anything from instructor Tong. Way to fail Trec. Thanks for the help Phatboi
Quest facts
Check whether you have already completed this quest
in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(30135))
What to do
Description
At first, the Slitherscale were too frightened to approach the wild serpents. Then, I caught them snatching the eggs under the cover of night. Now, they are slaughtering adults and hatchlings alike! If we do not do something, these gentle creatures will be completely wiped out. Then there won't even be an Order of the Cloud Serpent to join! Go and slay these vile Slitherscales, and then we will talk.
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Turn-inObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaIn-game waypoint: /way #371 65.3 31.7
Coordinates
- Turn-inThe Jade Forest 65.3, 31.7
/way #371 65.3 31.7 - Objective area (centre of the marked area)The Jade Forest 66.4, 29.8
/way #371 66.4 29.8
Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Nearby on the The Jade Forest map
- Skyriding about 260 yards
- Fashionable Flying about 260 yards
- How to Glide with Your Dragon about 270 yards
- The Need For Higher Velocities about 270 yards
- The Need For Higher Altitudes about 270 yards
- How to Dive with Your Dragon about 830 yards
- The Perfect Color about 930 yards
- Getting Permission about 940 yards
- Quill of Stingers about 940 yards
- Shrine of the Dawn about 940 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on The Jade Forest, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on The Jade Forest:
- Sri-La Village, Jade Forest
- The Arboretum, Jade Forest
- Emperor's Omen, Jade Forest
From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:
- Objective area
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Other quests on the Jade Forest map
Reward details
Reputation: Order of the Cloud Serpent +1,000
Guardians of the East Temple
Reputation group: Mists of Pandaria.
Other quests in The Jade Forest that reward Order of the Cloud Serpent reputation: Wild Things (+500), Empty Nests (+1,000), Egg Collection (+1,000), Choosing the One (+500), The Rider's Journey (+500), It's A... (+250).
Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.
Storyline
Order of the Cloud Serpent
Part 3 of 17.
Previous: Order of the Cloud Serpent · Next: Empty Nests
- 1Wild Things
- 2Order of the Cloud Serpent
- 3Beating the Odds
- 4Empty Nests
- 5Egg Collection
- 6Choosing the One
- 7The Rider's Journey
- 8The Rider's Journey
- 9The Rider's Journey
- 10It's A...
- 11They Grow Like Weeds
- 12Flight Training: Ring Round-Up
Showing steps 1 to 12 of 17.
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Order of the Cloud Serpent
Widing toortles is da best! But widing cloud serpents is even better! There's some peepos at da Arboweetum who wide cloud serpents and can teach you how!
After this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Empty Nests
When the attacks began, the young hatchlings scattered in terror. They are roaming around the island, lost and scared. If you want to help, take this rope and leash the lost little ones. Take them back to their nests. Return them home.
Quests that require this one
The storyline at a glance
Order of the Cloud Serpent has 17 steps, from Wild Things to Riding the Skies.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): The Jade Forest (17).
Other storylines on The Jade Forest map
- The Jade Forest
- The Jade Forest, Dawn's Blossom & Tian Monastery & Nectarbreeze Village
- The Jade Forest, Greenstone Quarry & Terrace of Ten Thunders & The Jade Serpent
- The Jade Forest, Strange Bedfellows & Grookin Hill
- The Jade Forest, The White Pawn & Pearlfin Village
- The Jade Forest, Paw'don Village
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.