I originally posted this under Hero of the Mag'har, the former end of the chain. Since this is the final quest I'll repost it here. Please rate me up(original was up to +222)
This Quest Chain starts in Hellfire with The Assassin. This requires you are able to speak to Nazgrel which means you will have to have done at least some of the level 58 outland Quests*.
1. The Assassin
2. A Strange Weapon
3. The Warchief's Mandate
4. A Spirit Guide
5. The Mag'har
6. Messenger to Thrall
7. Envoy to the Mag'harAlso given at this point are the following, but is not necessary to complete the Hero chain. They are very nice rep rewards for each so you may want to do them since you’re there anyway.
1. A Debilitating Sickness
2. Administering the SalveThe next part leads you to Jorin Dead Eye in Garadar, Nagrand.
1. The Impotent Leader
2. Don't Kill the Fat One
3. Success!
4. Because Kilrath is a Coward
5. Message in a Battle
6. An Audacious Advance
7. Diplomatic MeasuresTakes you to Nagrand to Find Lantresor of the Blade which gives you the Blademaster Chain
1a. Armaments for Deception
1b. Ruthless Cunning
2a. Returning the Favor
2b. Body Of Evidence
3. Message to GaradarYou will also need to complete The following Unrelated Quests.
1. The Totem of Kar’dashwhich is a simple escort quest beginning with the Mag'har Captive in one of the buildings of Sunspring Post.
The second part involves Altruis the Sufferer who is right by the Mag’har captive so these are good quests to do together.
1. Survey the Land
2. Buying Time
3. The Master Planner
4. Patience and Understanding
5. Crackin' Some Skulls
6. It's Just That Easy?
7. Forge Camp: AnnihilatedThis unlocks the final sequence which returns you to Garrosh . He sends you finally to visit Greatmother Geyah .
1. A Visit With the Greatmother
2. Material Components
3. To Meet Mother Kashur
4. The Agitated Ancestors
5. A Visit With The Ancestors
6. When Spirits Speak
7. A Secret Revealed
8. Auchindoun...
9. What the Soul Sees
10. Return to the Greatmother
11. The Inconsolable Chieftain
12. There Is No Hope (new ending)13. Thrall, Son of Durotan
14. Hero of the Mag'harCongrats on you Uber new Gear and Exalted Rep.
Small disclaimer. This is a compilation from a lot of peoples work using information from Allakazam, Wowhead , WoWWiki , and the Armory . This took many hours to complete since the info was so scattered so please rate me up if possible.
Raimi, 70 Undead Warlock,
Titianna 70 Belf Priest
Heghbathl 70 Belf Tankadin
Sentinals
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1. Through the Dark Portal
2. Arrival in Outland
3. Journey to Thrallmar
4. Report to Nazgrel
5. Eradicate the Burning Legion
6. Felspark Ravine
7. Forward Base: Reaver's Fall
8. Disrupt Their Reinforcements
9. Mission: Gateways Murketh and Shaadraz
10. Mission: The Abyssal Shelf
Quest
There Is No Hope
A World of Warcraft quest in Nagrand. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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*War drums echo in the distance.
Thrall yells: At long last, I am home...(About 6 minutes later)
Thrall says: Greatmother...
Greatmother Geyah says: I have been expecting you, young one. Come closer - my eyes are not as sharp as they once were.
Greatmother Geyah says: Yes, you move like my son. You have his broad shoulders - ahh, and your mother's fierce eyes.Thrall says: Greatmother...Am I...
Greatmother Geyah says: There is no doubt - you are the heir of Durotan... my grandson. Draka told me she was with child before she and your father left our world, but I never dared dream that they would survive...
Thrall says: They... did not, Greatmother. They were killed shortly after I was born. I never knew them. I was raised as a slave. To this day, I carry the name of Thrall.
Greatmother Geyah says: Thrall? You've been a slave only to the past, grandson! But no more! When last I saw him, Durotan told me the name he would give his unborn son... He was... so proud...
*Greatmother Geyah wipes a tear away.
Greatmother Geyah says: Go'el. You are Go'el, son of Durotan - rightful chieftain of the Frostwolves. This day, grandson - you are the great joy of my heart.Thrall says: I have dreamed of this moment all my life, Greatmother. 'Till now, all I've had were Orgrim's stories about my parents and their adventures on Draenor. He was my greatest teacher and dearest friend. He died a hero... They all died as heroes - and for all of them, a song of honor remains.
Greatmother Geyah says: I see that you hold the Doomhammer. Have all of our greatest heroes fallen, grandson?
Thrall says: They died honorably, Greatmother.
Greatmother Geyah says: What of Grommash? What of Hellscream?Thrall says: He died our greatest hero. It was Grom who freed us all... I was by his side when he struck down Mannoroth and ended the curse forever.
Greatmother Geyah says: Blessed spirits! For twenty years, all we knew was that Grom was the first to drink from the cursed chalice and bring damnation down upon our people... It is the only truth his son, Garrosh has ever known.
Greatmother Geyah says: Grandson, will you... Will you tell Garrosh what you have told me about his father?
Thrall says: Tell him? Greatmother, that boy's father died so that all of us could live free of the blood curse. I will tell him nothing. I will show him! Show him and any that would doubt Hellscream's resolve exactly what Grom Hellscream did for all orcs!
Thrall says: Please excuse me, Greatmother. I will return soon.(Thrall walks down to Garrosh, then leads him to the spirit circle)
Thrall yells: Spirits give me strength! Take from my soul these old wounds and expose them for all to see! Let this child know his father! Let these people know their savior!
(Thrall summons a sort of miniature version of the fight with Mannoroth in the spirit circle)
*Mannoroth laughs.
Mannoroth says: So predictable. I knew you would come. And I see you've brought the mighty Hellscream.
Mannoroth says: His blood is mine, as is your whole misbegotten race.
Thrall roars in defiance.(Mannoroth strikes down Thrall)
Mannoroth says: A worthy effort, but futile.
*Mannoroth laughs.
Mannoroth says: The boy believed you could be saved, but he didn't know what burns within your soul when in your heart, you know we are the same.Grom Hellscream says: NOOOO!
(Hellscream and Mannoroth strike each other down, Thrall gets back up)
Grom Hellscream says: Thrall... The blood haze has lifted.
*Grom's eyes go dim as the blood curse is lifted.
Grom Hellscream says: The demon's fire has burnt out in my veins. I have... freed myself.Thrall says: No, old friend. You've freed us all...
Garrosh collapses.
Garrosh says: For my entire life I have thought my bloodline cursed. I have lived beneath the shadow of my father's greatest failure.
Garrosh says: I hated him for what he had done. I hated him for the burden he left me. But now...
Garrosh says: You have shown me truths that I would have never known. You and your allies have gifted me with something that cannot bear a price: Redemption. Thrall, redeemer of the Mag'har, you honor me as none ever have...
Garrosh says: On this day, a great burden has been lifted from my chest. My heart swells with pride. And for the first time, I can proudly proclaim who I am. I can finally unleash the fury in my heart.
Garrosh yells: I am Garrosh Hellscream, son of Grom, chieftain of the Mag'har! Let the battle call of Hellscream give you courage and strength! Be lifted by my rallying cry.(Everyone gets Hellscream's Warsong buff)
Garrosh says: Thank you, son of Durotan.
Thrall places a hand on Garrosh's shoulder.
Thrall says: You need not thank me, Garrosh. Your father was a brother to me. I would do anything for you and the Mag'har. I must now return to the Greatmother.(Thrall walks back to the Greatmother)
Thrall says: I have returned, Greatmother. Garrosh has found his heart and his fury.
"I cannot become the second Hellscream to damn the orcs."
Yeah, sure.
Quest facts
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Requirements
Read from the Blizzard quest API.
What to do
Description
You are an honorable {race}, {name}. You have done much for the Mag'har. No one could ever deny your service to my people. Alas, the time of the Mag'har is at an end. You have shown me, more than anything, that I am unfit to lead these people. My cursed blood runs too deep. I will not... I cannot become the second Hellscream to damn the orcs. Please, {name}, return to the Greatmother and tell her what I have told you. I am too ashamed to see her... to look into her eyes.
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Turn-inObjective areaObjective areaIn-game waypoint: /way #107 56.7 34.3
Coordinates
- Turn-inNagrand 56.7, 34.3
/way #107 56.7 34.3 - Objective areaNagrand 56.5, 34.8
/way #107 56.5 34.8 - Objective areaNagrand 55.4, 37.6
/way #107 55.4 37.6
Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Nearby on the Nagrand map
- Warchief's Command: Nagrand! about 140 yards
- Honor the Flame about 320 yards
- Outbound for Outland about 850 yards
- Comfort Stones about 850 yards
- Zangarmoss about 850 yards
- Sneks and Things about 850 yards
- Snakes on a Plane about 850 yards
- Desecrate this Fire! about 1,360 yards
- Altruis about 1,650 yards
- Against the Legion about 1,650 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Nagrand, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Horde flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Nagrand:
- Garadar, Nagrand
- Zabra'jin, Zangarmarsh
- Shattrath, Terokkar Forest
From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:
- Objective area
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Choose one of these rewards:
Mag'hari Scout's Tunic
Mag'hari Warlord's Legplates
Mag'hari Ritualist's Horns
Mag'hari Huntsman's Leggings
Reward details
Items you receive
Pick one of these
Reputation: The Mag'har +1,000
This reclusive group of brown-skinned orcs has escaped any form of demonic corruption. They have retained their traditional way of life in the face of great changes in Outland.
Reputation group: The Burning Crusade.
Other quests in Nagrand that reward The Mag'har reputation: Vile Idolatry (+250), The Missing War Party (+25), Once Were Warriors (+250), He Will Walk The Earth... (+75), Murkblood Leaders... (+250), The Totem of Kar'dash (+350).
Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.
Storyline
Nagrand
Part 94 of 94.
Previous: The Inconsolable Chieftain
- 83A Visit With the Greatmother
- 84Material Components
- 85To Meet Mother Kashur
- 86The Agitated Ancestors
- 87A Visit With The Ancestors
- 88When Spirits Speak
- 89A Secret Revealed
- 90Auchindoun...
- 91What the Soul Sees
- 92Return to the Greatmother
- 93The Inconsolable Chieftain
- 94There Is No Hope
Showing steps 83 to 94 of 94.
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- The Inconsolable Chieftain
You have done so much for the Mag'har, <name>. Your accomplishments are known to all, including Garrosh. Go to him now and tell him of your latest victory. Tell him that you do what you do for him and his people. Surely he will be lifted by your words.
Also counted by Nagrand Slam
Its criteria name 13 quests; others include:
- The Spirit Polluted
- The Ultimate Bloodsport
- Gurok the Usurper
- Murkblood Corrupters
- He Will Walk The Earth...
- The Totem of Kar'dash
- Gava'xi
- Matters of Security
The storyline at a glance
Nagrand has 94 steps, from Do My Eyes Deceive Me to There Is No Hope.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Nagrand (87), Terokkar Forest (4), Shattrath City (2), Auchenai Crypts (1).
Steps of this storyline count toward:
- Nagrand Slam
- The First Rule of Ring of Blood is You Don't Talk About Ring of Blood
- Of Blood and Anguish
Other storylines on the Nagrand map
- Shadowmoon Valley
- Sneks for K'aresh
- Burning Crusade Chromie Time Breadcrumbs
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.
Achievements
Completing this quest counts toward this achievement.
- Nagrand Slam: its criteria name 13 quests, this one included.