The Warchief Cometh

First of all, I'm getting downrated for expressing an opinion relevant to the quest and topic in a perfectly neutral manner? What is this, YouTube?

Second of all, what he does with Vol'jin isn't at all relevant to what I said, nor did I mention him.

My point is, while Garrosh is certainly crude and does things he shouldn't do, it's easy to have this whole "They're valuable allies and should be respected" and all that from a player point of view, but that's not the same thing.

A minority can very easily give the majority a bad name, justified or no, real life examples are absolutely everywhere, and perfectly good and normal people fall for them. And we're talking "backstabbing killers who toy with deadly plagues" -level here.

And if you've done SFK for example, you'll know that the Forsaken are completely ready to just plain disregard the warnings, calling the orcish High Warlord Cromush basically a "thick-skulled brute with a fool's brain", and play with the plague anyway. There are many similar quests as well, such as gathering those "supplies" in Hillsbrad.

And none of this, mass-raising the dead Lich King -style, allying themselves with the goons of the aforementioned Lich King or developing deadly plagues can possibly look like anything but trouble for any non-Forsaken or has any positive effect on you if you're alive (like Garrosh and the REST OF THE WORLD), but there's a whole lot of potential for disaster. It's all entirely and completely for the Forsaken and the Forsaken alone, there is zero "respect" for any other race in all of Azeroth, and you're complaining that THEY aren't shown enough respect?

I would dare to say that you didn't look at it from all perspectives. Just because Sylvanas is liked and Garrosh hated doesn't mean everything is black and white. Also, I'm seeing way too much trouble making an argument about fictional characters and using way too many silly links, especially considering I'll probably get downrated again and this'll all go to oblivion, but hey. If you read all the way here, have a cookie.

the alliance between the horse and the forsaken

So THAT's how they created Dreadsteeds.

I stand by my point, if your neighbour was a zombie whose cousin happened to kill half the neighborhood with blueberry pie, you probably wouldn't support his plans of building a pie factory even if it is to support his family no matter how well it's advertised for the dough to be "to die for" (Recipe of the Month in the Cooking Mama And Her Pets -magazine!), especially if you get to see the blueberries being grown with "100% safe mystery fertilizer" provided by Ol' Elkay's "Kill 'Em Good" Nuclear Rat Poison Company.

As seen/reported to be in the Beta as of 6/22/2010

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25482320560&sid=2000&pageNo=2#27

I won't be surprised if this gets 'toned down' a bit in later Beta builds or when Cataclysm goes live, as you will see...

Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: Where is that Orge headed buffoon?
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner Ah, speak of the devil...
*Portals from Ogrimmar arrive with Hellscream, Hellscream's elite, and High Warlord Cromush*
*Hellscream jumps from the portal down to Sylvanas*
Garrosh Hellscream: This better be important, Sylvanas. You know how I detest this place and its foul stench. Why have you called for me?
Garrosh Hellscream: And more importantly, what are those Scourge fiends doing here? *Garrosh makes a gesture @ the Val'kyr*
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: Warchief, so glad you could make it.
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: With the death of the Lich King, many of the more intelligent Scourge became...unemployed. Those 'fiends,' as you so delicately put it, are called val'kyr. They are under my command now...
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: ...and they are part of the reason that I asked to see you.
Garrosh Hellscream: Get on with it Sylvanas.
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: Very well, Warchief. I have solved the plight of the Forsaken!
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: As a race, we Forsaken are unable to procreate.
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: With the aid of the val'kyr, we are now able to take the corpses of the fallen and create new Forsaken.
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: Agatha, show the Warchief!
*The Val'kyr Agatha proceeds to resurrect fallen corpses as Undead*
High Warlord Cromush: ABBERATION!
Garrosh Hellscream: What you have done here, Sylvanas....it goes against the laws of nature. Disgusting is the only word I have to describe it.
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: Warchief, without these new Forsaken my people would die out...Out hold upon Gilneas and northern Lordaeron would crumble.
Garrosh Hellscream: Have you given any thought to what this means, Sylvanas.
Garrosh Hellscream: What difference is there between you and the Lich King now?
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner: Isn't it obvious, Warchief? I serve the Horde. (She does the Female Blood Elf salute, which is downright hysterical because it's such a condescending salute to begin with ;p)
Garrosh Hellscream: Watch your clever mouth, $%^&*.(Yes he really called her a @#$%^)
Garrosh Hellscream: Cromush, you stay behind and make sure the Banshee Queen is well "guarded." I will be expecting a full report when next we meet.
High Warlord Cromush: As you command, Warchief!
Garrosh Hellscream: Remember, Sylvanas, eventually we all have to stand before our maker and face judgment. Your day may come sooner than others...