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What Secrets Men Hide

A World of Warcraft quest in Dragonblight. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.

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Quest facts

LevelLevel 15-30
Quest ID12475

Check whether you have already completed this quest in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(12475))

Requirements

FactionAlliance only

Read from the Blizzard quest API.

What to do

StorylineDragonblight, step 118 of 149
Rewards4,100 XP

Description

After the betrayal at the Forgotten Shore, Prince Arthas - with Muradin in tow - began his quest for Frostmourne. Could the location of the cavern where Frostmourne was found be near? What secrets could it hold? While the orb has no answers for these questions, it does show me something. To the northeast of Wintergarde Keep is an outpost built by the Scarlet Onslaught. Somewhere within that outpost is a map. The orb tells me that this map will be of great use to us. Retrieve it!

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Where to go

Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.

Dragonblight Quest turn-in 2 mapped points
Dragonblight map showing where to go for What Secrets Men HideTurn-inObjective area

In-game waypoint: /way #115 79.2 47.2

Coordinates

  • Turn-inDragonblight 79.2, 47.2/way #115 79.2 47.2
  • Objective areaDragonblight 87.6, 38.1/way #115 87.6 38.1

Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.

Nearby on the Dragonblight map

Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Dragonblight, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.

Getting there

Alliance flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Dragonblight:

  • Wintergarde Keep, DragonblightAlliance · about 150 yards south-west
  • Wyrmrest Temple, DragonblightAlliance and Horde · about 1,100 yards west
  • Windrunner's Overlook, Crystalsong ForestAlliance · about 1,300 yards north

From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:

  • Objective areaabout 580 yards north-east

Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.

Related
Experience4,100 XP
ReputationValiance Expedition +250

Reward details

Reputation: Valiance Expedition +250

The main armies of the Alliance in Northrend, moving against the Scourge and unified under King Varian Wrynn's command.

Reputation group: Alliance Vanguard.

Other quests in Dragonblight that reward Valiance Expedition reputation: A Letter for Home (+250), Strengthen the Ancients (+250), Pest Control (+250), Canyon Chase (+250), The Lost Courier (+25), The Liquid Fire of Elune (+250).

Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.

Storyline

Dragonblight

Part 118 of 149.

Previous: Parting Thoughts · Next: Frostmourne Cavern

  1. 113Orik Trueheart and the Forgotten Shore
  2. 114The Murkweed Elixir
  3. 115The Forgotten Tale
  4. 116The Truth Shall Set Us Free
  5. 117Parting Thoughts
  6. 118What Secrets Men Hide
  7. 119Frostmourne Cavern
  8. 120Return To Angrathar
  9. 121WANTED: The Scarlet Onslaught
  10. 122Blighted Last Rites
  11. 123Let Them Not Rise!
  12. 124Stealing from the Siegesmiths

Showing steps 113 to 124 of 149.

Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.

Where this quest fits

Before this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • Parting ThoughtsDragonblight · Level 15-30

    You have honored me and honored the memory of hundreds of Alliance veterans, <name>. Zelig was wise in sending you here. Please return to him and give him my thanks. He will be happy to hear of the events that transpired at the Forgotten Shore.

After this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • Frostmourne CavernDragonblight · Level 15-30

    They have labeled the cave as Frostmourne Cavern. Why the Scarlet Onslaught is interested in such things is unknown, but by the look of things, the area surrounding the cave is heavily guarded. Nonetheless, we must proceed!

The storyline at a glance

Dragonblight has 149 steps, from The Liquid Fire of Elune to Really Big Worm.

Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Dragonblight (144), Crystalsong Forest (5).

Steps of this storyline count toward:

Other storylines on the Dragonblight map

Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.