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If He Cannot Be Turned (Alliance)

If He Cannot Be Turned is an Alliance-only quest for level 25-30 in Icecrown. It is step 70 of 167 in the Icecrown storyline. The quest's turn-in marker is in Icecrown at 62.5, 41.8. It rewards 5,150 experience and money.

Description

Death knights, such as General Lightsbane, are held on too tight of a leash to be able to be turned from the Lich King's will except under the most extraordinary circumstances.

The general keeps himself within the vault overseeing the creation of new weapons. Disturb one of his weapon racks at the northern forge and I assure you, he will come. I'll send Vile, Lady Nightswood, and The Leaper in to help you.

If we are to finally own The Shadow Vault, General Lightsbane must fall!

Rewards

Money21 gold
Experience5,150 XP
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Here is the sequence of quests that lead to the Final Challenge.
(A for Alliance, H for Horde)

1A It's All Fun and Games
1H It's All Fun and Games
2 I Have an Idea, But First...
3 Free Your Mind
4A If He Cannot Be Turned
4H If He Cannot Be Turned
5A The Shadow Vault
5H The Shadow Vault
6 The Duke
7 Eliminate the Competition
8 The Bone Witch
9 Deep in the Bowels of The Underhalls
NOTE: You do not need to complete step 9, but you must be on the quest in order to loot Dr. Terrible's "Building a Better Flesh Giant", which starts step 10. I never handed in step 9, even after the Final Challenge, just to be sure.
10 The Sum is Greater than the Parts
11 The Art of Being a Water Terror
12 Through the Eye
13 Find the Ancient Hero
14 Not-So-Honorable Combat
15 Banshee's Revenge
16 Battle at Valhalas
17 Battle at Valhalas: Fallen Heroes
18 Battle at Valhalas: Khit'rix the Dark Master
19 Battle at Valhalas: The Return of Sigrid Iceborn
20 Battle at Valhalas: Carnage!
21 Battle at Valhalas: Thane Deathblow
22 Battle at Valhalas: Final Challenge

Enjoy! :D

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Rewards in detail
TypeRewardAmount
ExperienceXP5,150
MoneyGold21g
Where it comes from
Turn-in mapIcecrownTurn-in marker at 62.5, 41.8, 3 mapped points
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Where to go

Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.

Icecrown Quest turn-in 3 mapped points
Icecrown map showing where to go for If He Cannot Be TurnedTurn-inObjective areaObjective area

In-game waypoint: /way #118 62.5 41.8

Coordinates

  • Turn-inIcecrown 62.5, 41.8/way #118 62.5 41.8
  • Objective areaIcecrown 44.7, 20.3/way #118 44.7 20.3
  • Objective areaIcecrown 44.2, 24.7/way #118 44.2 24.7

Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.

Nearby on the Icecrown map

Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Icecrown, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.

Getting there

Alliance flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Icecrown:

  • Argent Tournament Grounds, IcecrownAlliance and Horde · about 1,000 yards north-east
  • The Shadow Vault, IcecrownAlliance and Horde · about 1,400 yards north-west
  • Crusaders' Pinnacle, IcecrownAlliance and Horde · about 1,700 yards south-east

From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:

  • Objective areaabout 1,400 yards north-west
  • Objective areaabout 1,400 yards north-west

Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.

Quest Line

Storyline

Icecrown

Part 70 of 167.

Previous: Free Your Mind · Next: If He Cannot Be Turned

  1. 65Shatter the Shards
  2. 66It's All Fun and Games
  3. 67It's All Fun and Games
  4. 68I Have an Idea, But First...
  5. 69Free Your Mind
  6. 70If He Cannot Be Turned
  7. 71If He Cannot Be Turned
  8. 72The Shadow Vault
  9. 73The Shadow Vault
  10. 74The Duke
  11. 75Exploiting an Opening
  12. 76Securing the Perimeter

Showing steps 65 to 76 of 167.

Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.

Where this quest fits

Before this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • Free Your MindIcecrown · Level 25-30

    Vile, Lady Nightswood, and The Leaper would make excellent weapons in the fight against the Lich King if they can be broken from his will. That is what the Sovereign Rod is for. You'll find them on the ledges to the east and west of the vault, as well as on the mid-tier of the vault above us.

After this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • The Shadow VaultIcecrown · Level 25-30

    It sounds like you did extremely well. And you secured three very important allies for the Knights of the Ebon Blade in the process. <Thassarian gazes out over the horizon.> You should head back.

Other quests with this name

This one: Alliance only · Icecrown · Level 25-30.

The storyline at a glance

Icecrown has 167 steps, from Honor Above All Else to Light Within the Darkness.

Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Icecrown (162), Moonglade (2), Dragonblight (2), Shattrath City (1).

Steps of this storyline count toward:

Other storylines on the Icecrown map

Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.

Other versions of this quest

2 quests carry the name If He Cannot Be Turned. They differ in the faction shown here.

QuestFactionID
If He Cannot Be Turned (this page)Alliance12896
If He Cannot Be TurnedHorde12897
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