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Persistent Dissidents

A World of Warcraft quest in Thaldraszus. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.

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Belazriel+26via Wowhead (opens the original comment in a new tab)

Alexstraza really comes across poorly in this questline. You're like "Uh, the Dragonkin feel like you abandoned them for 10,000 years and then started making demands of them as soon as you showed back up" and her response is basically "Gee, I never really considered that these lesser creatures may have had actual thoughts and feelings."

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Teropher+5via Wowhead (opens the original comment in a new tab)

None of the "rebels" gave a single valid excuse for justifying murder and violence in the name of supposedly wanting "fairness" and having a "choice". And the whole notion that hey nobody asked us if we wanted to fight, well obviously they had no problem with fighting since that's what they proceeded to do all in the name of not wanting to fight? Sorry how does that make sense again? We don't want to fight for the Aspects to defend Azeroth against people who literally want to burn the planet so we'll help those people destroy the world instead of defending it because we were asked to help burn it instead of being asked to defendt it? Does nobody think critically or use logic anymore?
Look at Emberthal's story in Blizzard's Dragonflight Legacies Chapter Three https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br3QBFfqpGA when Nozdormu took her back in time to see what Neltharion did to them and gives her this whole spiel about them being free to make their own destiny. So tell me again how the Aspects gave them no choices?
We quested throughout the Dragon Isles and not one single time did we see anything of dragons treating anyone as a slave or as if they had no choices. Obeying orders, yes becuase that's what soldiers do. Don't want to be a soldier that's your choice to not be there but how are they supposed to know you don't want to be there if you don't speak up! Which brings me to my biggest pet peeve about this whole thing. Not a single freaking "rebel" ever spoke up and said a word to the Aspects about "unfair treatment" or they didn't want to do yada yada yada until AFTER they were caught! They literally are nothing but whiny, sulky children throwing a tantrum because they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar of extremely morally wrong choices and are now trying to shift the blame on to someone else. Otherwise we would have completed a quest at some point where a would be rebel asked our help to speak for them regarding all this rampant "unfairness" and "no choices" they were supposedly going through. But we didn't so ya this is total garbage. This whole quest line was extremely sloppy and lazy writing on the part of Blizzard. It sounds like someone went "hey we're short on time to do some real writing so how can we wrap this up real quick and throw a little nod in to social justice while we're at it?".

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Quest facts

LevelLevel 40-70
Quest ID72417

Check whether you have already completed this quest in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(72417))

What to do

StorylineRebel Resurgence, step 7 of 13
Rewards28g 9s, 9,500 XP

Description

My goal is to see this rebellion brought to an end, with as little violence as possible. To do that, I need to understand the root causes of this rebellion. The rebels have clearly come to resent the Aspects and the dragonflights. And while we had to use force to protect Valdrakken, that hasn't brought about an end to the rebellion. I'd like you to speak to the prisoners, and ask why they rebelled. I'll accompany you to hear their reasons.

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Where to go

Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.

Thaldraszus Quest turn-in 7 mapped points
Thaldraszus map showing where to go for Persistent DissidentsTurn-inObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective area

In-game waypoint: /way #2025 38.8 52.6

Coordinates

  • Turn-inThaldraszus 38.8, 52.6/way #2025 38.8 52.6
  • Objective areaThaldraszus 38.4, 53.7/way #2025 38.4 53.7
  • Objective areaThaldraszus 38.6, 52.6/way #2025 38.6 52.6
  • Objective areaThaldraszus 38.3, 51.4/way #2025 38.3 51.4

Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.

Nearby on the Thaldraszus map

Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Thaldraszus, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.

Getting there

Flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Thaldraszus:

  • Valdrakken, ThaldraszusAlliance and Horde · about 670 yards south
  • Ruby Lifeshrine, The Waking ShoresAlliance and Horde · about 970 yards north-west
  • Timberstep Outpost, Ohn'ahran PlainsAlliance and Horde · about 1,300 yards west

From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:

  • Objective areaabout 90 yards south-west
  • Objective areaabout 100 yards north-west
  • Objective areaabout 140 yards north-west

Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.

Related
Money28 gold9 silver
Experience9,500 XP

Reward details

Currency: Flightstones x 10

Earned from completing world quests, raids, dungeons, battlegrounds, arena matches, and other activities. Used to upgrade max-level gear.

Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.

Storyline

Rebel Resurgence

Part 7 of 13.

Previous: Temporary Accommodations · Next: Solicited Opinions

  1. 1Cause Without a Rebel
  2. 2Explosive Interruption
  3. 3Irreconcilable Differences
  4. 4Know Prisoners!
  5. 5Rebel Rousing Writings
  6. 6Temporary Accommodations
  7. 7Persistent Dissidents
  8. 8Solicited Opinions
  9. 9Cleaning up the Cliffraff
  10. 10Wreckonciliation
  11. 11The Quill to Power
  12. 12Stop the Presses
  13. 13Reconcilable Dissidents

Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.

Where this quest fits

Before this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • Temporary AccommodationsThaldraszus · Level 40-70

    We've been sending the rebel prisoners to Steelcliff Rampart. It's the barracks where Valdrakken's city guard, the Scalesworn, are based. So there are plenty of guards to keep them from causing harm or escaping.

After this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • Solicited OpinionsThaldraszus · Level 40-70

    That was enlightening, to say the least. The rebels we talked to had a lot to say which I wouldn't have anticipated. I have my thoughts on the situation, but what did you think of their grievances? As neither a dragon nor dragonkin, you bring a certain objectivity to the matter.

The storyline at a glance

Rebel Resurgence has 13 steps, from Cause Without a Rebel to Reconcilable Dissidents.

Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Thaldraszus (10), Valdrakken (3).

Steps of this storyline count toward:

Other storylines on the Thaldraszus map

Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.