LOVE this quest, just the quest text alone:
Whenever possible, I advocate friendship, recovery and reconciliation.
I ask others to act with compassion and empathy.
Everyone deserves a chance to recover. I dedicate my life to this.Quest Objectives:
Kill the Ascended nerubian
Quest
Setting Boundaries
A World of Warcraft quest in Azj-Kahet. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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I really appreciate this quest for the "lesson" it imparts: that there are some seriously evil people in the world, and in instances such as this when those people are doing evil things to other people, if you do nothing to stop the evil then you are simply condoning the evil that is causing others' suffering. Even if your reason is "moral pacifism"/"turning the other cheek", if you do nothing to stop evil when you see it, your pacifism is perpetuating continued suffering -- and that seems illogical, since most people choose pacifism in order to do the least harm. (There are, of course, other ways to go about "dealing with the evil" that aren't "killing the person doing it" -- but I imagine Mr. Sunflower assumes the Ascended aren't really interested in negotiating.)
Anyway, I think this is a great reminder for the real world.
Edit: Also, what [npc=225438] says if you speak with him after accepting this quest, describing the torture his superior subjects them to, then juxtaposing it by explaining that he "used to be my friend. He is still my friend, sometimes. Sometimes he talks to me like old times, and calls me Vi. Can someone be both things?" -- this really is fantastic writing. Vi'azl is presenting a question that would arise from someone with "black and white thinking": a mindset that everything is either one way or the other. It's something that I have struggled with my entire life. It's actually hard to acknowledge sometimes that yes, people are extremely complex and can be many things at once -- even many opposing, paradoxical things at once. And I feel that makes boundaries that much harder to set up and enforce -- if his superior were solely a torturer, it would be easy for him to hate him and want him dead. But he used to be his friend, and even still is sometimes...
I really love the complexity of the writing that Blizzard has introduced this expansion. It's so real, it's so relatable. This is the kind of writing I hope prevails in future expansions -- not to mention the normalization of mental health struggles and the treatment of them! +1 for that alone. :)
I mean, he does say you need to draw a line somewhere, heh.
Quest facts
Check whether you have already completed this quest
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What to do
Description
Vi'azl has undergone a level of torture that I was unaware of. We cannot help Vi with his fear until Vi is actually safe. Whenever possible, I advocate friendship, recovery, and reconciliation. I ask others to act with compassion and empathy. Everyone deserves a chance to recover. I dedicate my life to this. But hearing and seeing what is happening to Vi'azl... I think I've changed my mind. Enough is enough. We must act.
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Nearby on the City of Threads - Lower map
- Make Them Prey about 80 yards
- A Spy Like Us about 80 yards
- Defense of the People about 80 yards
- Armaments: Weaponry about 100 yards
- Information Control: Ansurek's Truth about 130 yards
- Whispers from the Web about 260 yards
- A Flame in the Dark about 260 yards
- Requisitions: Fangpetals about 280 yards
- Into a Skittering City about 320 yards
- A Most Intriguing Invitation about 320 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on City of Threads - Lower, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on City of Threads - Lower:
- The Burrows, Azj-Kahet
- Wildcamp Ul'ar, Azj-Kahet
- Weaver's Lair, Azj-Kahet
From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:
- Objective area
- Objective area
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Other quests on the City of Threads - Lower map
Storyline
Mr. Sunflower's Therapy
Part 2 of 2.
Previous: Loss of Limb
- 1Loss of Limb
- 2Setting Boundaries
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Loss of Limb
Happy greetings! I am Mr. Sunflower, and this is my tea room and therapy space. It is a safe place for everyone! I wonder if you might be willing to help a patient of mine. Vi'azl is deathly afraid of creatures with fewer limbs. I think it has grown into a deep phobia of dismemberment.
Also counted by Sojourner of Azj-Kahet
Its criteria name 18 quests; others include:
- Boom or Blight
- Intention vs Instinct
- Delegated Dig
- Permanent Hire
- Removing the Cap
- Burn It With Fire
- That Airspace is Mine(d)!
- Offensive Counter
The storyline at a glance
Mr. Sunflower's Therapy has 2 steps, from Loss of Limb to Setting Boundaries.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): City of Threads - Lower (2).
Other storylines on the City of Threads - Lower map
- To Kill a Queen
- Plans within Plans
- Pillar-nest of Horrors
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.
Achievements
Completing this quest counts toward this achievement.
- Sojourner of Azj-Kahet: its criteria name 18 quests, this one included.