TheWoWDBWhat I did was to jump from the vineyards and glide down with a goblin glider. Super quick and easy.
Quest
Either With Us
A World of Warcraft quest in Suramar. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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This is kind of a dumb quest design. The amount of guards that can see through your disguise in this area is very large, and many of them are elites. So that indicates that you're supposed to stay away from that area. Then they give you a quest telling you to go to the area you've been warned away from. Maybe they'll send us to GM Island next.
A way to bypass any fighting is:
- to stay mounted and ...
a) manoeuver through all detecting NPCs forth and back without getting revealed
b) should you drop your illusion, run 15 yards past Aurore and drop into the little "garden" right behind her and stay close to the bigger front wall to LOS the casters.... NPCs wont follow you into it as there is "no path available"; they will reset after a few seconds and you should be able to get up after a few tries again.edit: typos
Quest facts
LevelLevel 45
ZoneSuramar
Quest ID43310
Check whether you have already completed this quest
in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(43310))
What to do
StorylineStatecraft, step 2 of 10
Rewards2g 2s 20c, 775 XP
Description
Thalyssra asks much of me, but our cause is worth the risks. The title of advisor would grant us enormous influence. Information. Access. I could change this rebellion. I could save so many lives. I will need strong endorsement to ascend, though. There are many houses who stand with me by virtue of my family's name. Some are more hesitant. Lady Aurore of House Astravar is the most prominent of these. Seek her out. Offer your aid in my stead. Earn her trust and the rest will follow.
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Turn-inObjective areaIn-game waypoint: /way #680 57.6 57.3
Coordinates
- Turn-inSuramar 57.6, 57.3
/way #680 57.6 57.3 - Objective areaSuramar 47.9, 82.9
/way #680 47.9 82.9
Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Nearby on the Suramar map
- Sip and Savor about 100 yards
- Meet with Meerah about 110 yards
- The Vintner's Assistants about 110 yards
- How It's Made: Arcwine about 160 yards
- Intense Concentration about 160 yards
- Fermented for the Horde about 170 yards
- A Particular Process about 170 yards
- The Old Fashioned Way about 180 yards
- The Fruit of Our Efforts about 220 yards
- Playing to Their Strengths about 220 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Suramar, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Suramar:
- Crimson Thicket, Suramar
- Eastern Suramar
- Thorim's Peak
From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:
- Objective area
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Reward details
Reputation: The Nightfallen +25
These exiled Nightborne elves suffer withdrawals after being cut off from the Nightwell. They oppose their people's alliance with the Legion and fight for some kind of redemption.
Reputation group: Legion.
Other quests in Suramar that reward The Nightfallen reputation: Answering Aggression (+250), Regroup (+250), Crackdown (+250), No Reason to Stay (+250), Trail of Echoes (+250), The Only Way Out is Through (+250).
Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.
Storyline
Statecraft
Part 2 of 10.
Previous: The Perfect Opportunity · Next: Thinly Veiled Threats
- 1The Perfect Opportunity
- 2Either With Us
- 3Thinly Veiled Threats
- 4Vote of Confidence
- 5Or Against Us
- 6Death Becomes Him
- 7Rumor Has It
- 8In the Bag
- 9Ly'leth's Champion
- 10Friends With Benefits
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- The Perfect Opportunity
I have heard whispers from Suramar City. Recent unrest in the city has prompted the nobles to seek another advisor to fill Elisande's council. Such positions are rarely offered and hotly contested. This is the perfect opportunity and Ly'leth is the perfect candidate. Fate smiles upon our cause!
After this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Thinly Veiled Threats
How could I let this happen? <Aurore wrings her hands.> Yesterday Coryn Stelleris approached me about the appointment. He sought my support, but I did not offer it. He said my son's life would continue as normal... if I gave him my vote. This morning my son was gone.
The storyline at a glance
Statecraft has 10 steps, from The Perfect Opportunity to Friends With Benefits.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Suramar (10).
Steps of this storyline count toward:
Other storylines on the Suramar map
- Blood and Wine
- Balance of Power
- An Elven Problem
- Crafting War
- The Waning Crescent
- Eminent Grow-main
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.