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Quest
Or Against Us
A World of Warcraft quest in Suramar. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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God I hate this guy. So greedy. So selfish. 1200 ancient mana, you miserable little elf?
Make sure you're not in a raid group when you pay him...
Quest facts
LevelLevel 45
ZoneSuramar
Quest ID43311
Check whether you have already completed this quest
in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(43311))
What to do
StorylineStatecraft, step 5 of 10
RewardsEnchanted Nightborne Coin, 20g 22s, 6,150 XP
Enchanted Nightborne Coin, 20g 22s, 6,150 XPDescription
If Ly'leth is to achieve the role of advisor to the Grand Magistrix we will need to open a path for her. It is true she will have some supporters but they alone cannot grant her the title. There are other houses that Ly'leth must contend with. Fear and coercion are their tools. None dare stand against them openly, and we cannot win them over with favors and oaths. Seek out Arluin. I trust he will have some ideas of how to proceed.
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Turn-inObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaIn-game waypoint: /way #680 48.9 73.4
Coordinates
- Turn-inSuramar 48.9, 73.4
/way #680 48.9 73.4 - Objective area (centre of the marked area)Suramar 49.0, 73.4
/way #680 49.0 73.4 - Objective areaSuramar 47.9, 82.9
/way #680 47.9 82.9
Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Nearby on the Suramar map
- If Words Don't Work... same spot
- A Big Score same spot
- Asset Security same spot
- Hired Help about 10 yards
- Redistribution about 160 yards
- The Gondolier about 160 yards
- Waxing Crescent about 230 yards
- Arluin's Request about 250 yards
- Full Might of the Elves about 250 yards
- Friends in Cages about 270 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Suramar, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Suramar:
- Western Suramar
- Eastern Suramar
- Meredil, Suramar
From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:
- Objective area
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Reward details
Items you receive
TypeConsumable
Item level1
BindingBinds when picked up
Sells to vendors for25 gold
“Handed down for generations, this coin holds lingering knowledge from all its previous holders.”
Reputation: The Nightfallen +75
These exiled Nightborne elves suffer withdrawals after being cut off from the Nightwell. They oppose their people's alliance with the Legion and fight for some kind of redemption.
Reputation group: Legion.
Other quests in Suramar that reward The Nightfallen reputation: Answering Aggression (+250), Regroup (+250), Crackdown (+250), No Reason to Stay (+250), Trail of Echoes (+250), The Only Way Out is Through (+250).
Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.
Storyline
Statecraft
Part 5 of 10.
Previous: Vote of Confidence · Next: Death Becomes Him
- 1The Perfect Opportunity
- 2Either With Us
- 3Thinly Veiled Threats
- 4Vote of Confidence
- 5Or Against Us
- 6Death Becomes Him
- 7Rumor Has It
- 8In the Bag
- 9Ly'leth's Champion
- 10Friends With Benefits
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Vote of Confidence
I will endeavor to protect my son until the votes are cast. Coryn Stelleris is a predator even among the nobility. It does not surprise me that he should stoop to such depths to ensure his own success. Tell Ly'leth that she has my support. Unequivocally.
After this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Death Becomes Him
There are two houses that pose a threat to Ly'leth's rise, but we concern ourselves with only one of them now. House Duskmere commands respect through fear and that fear is not unfounded. Few can boast of magical talent equal to that of Ruven Duskmere.
The storyline at a glance
Statecraft has 10 steps, from The Perfect Opportunity to Friends With Benefits.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Suramar (10).
Steps of this storyline count toward:
Other storylines on the Suramar map
- Blood and Wine
- Balance of Power
- An Elven Problem
- Crafting War
- The Waning Crescent
- Eminent Grow-main
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.