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Never Surrender, Sometimes Retreat

Never Surrender, Sometimes Retreat is a quest for level 1-20 in Gilneas City. It is step 35 of 100 in the Gilneas storyline. It rewards 1 reputation reward, 1,400 experience and money.

Description

We had enough ammunition to carry on the civil war for another month. Yet the worgen's numbers are such that we're nearly spent.

We don't want to be caught out here in the open when that happens. Fall back inside the cathedral and report to the boss. I'm sure old Crowley will know what to do next.

Rewards

Money2 gold67 silver50 copper
Experience1,400 XP
ReputationGilneas +75

Stuck on this quest?

  • Go to Gilneas 59.0, 76.9 /way #179 59.0 76.9

Known issues

Top Comments

The highest voted Wowhead comments for this page. They are community notes, not TheWoWDB comments.

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1150541+7via Wowhead (opens the original comment in a new tab)

Pretty lame that you can get stuck in there - but I found a fix!

If you go as close to the cathedral as you can get, and then choose to "get unstuck" (aka die), you can be resurrected at the cathedral doors instead of in the camp on the other side of the blockade.

I did this and then resurrected at the graveyard, and voila: there I am in front of the cathedral. Went inside and turned in the quest.

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Check whether you have already completed it in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(14221))

Top Comments

The highest voted Wowhead comments for this page. They are community notes, not TheWoWDB comments.

2
1150541+7via Wowhead (opens the original comment in a new tab)

Pretty lame that you can get stuck in there - but I found a fix!

If you go as close to the cathedral as you can get, and then choose to "get unstuck" (aka die), you can be resurrected at the cathedral doors instead of in the camp on the other side of the blockade.

I did this and then resurrected at the graveyard, and voila: there I am in front of the cathedral. Went inside and turned in the quest.

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Rewards in detail
TypeRewardAmount
ExperienceXP1,400
MoneyGold2g 67s
ReputationGilneas+75

Reward details

Reputation: Gilneas +75

The people of Gilneas are a nation of survivors. Having walled themselves off from the rest of humanity, they must now face new threats from within.

Reputation group: Alliance.

Other quests in Gilneas City that reward Gilneas reputation: Lockdown! (+250), Something's Amiss (+250), All Hell Breaks Loose (+350), Salvage the Supplies (+350), Evacuate the Merchant Square (+350), Royal Orders (+250).

Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.

Where it comes from
Turn-in mapGilneas City
Objective areaGilneas1 mapped point
World Map

Where to go

Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.

Gilneas City Quest turn-in
Gilneas Objective area 1 mapped point
Gilneas map showing where to go for Never Surrender, Sometimes RetreatObjective area

In-game waypoint: /way #179 59.0 76.9

Coordinates

  • Objective areaGilneas 59.0, 76.9/way #179 59.0 76.9

Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.

Getting there

From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:

  • Objective areaabout 110 yards north-west
  • Objective areaabout 530 yards south (on the Gilneas map)

Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.

Quest Line

Storyline

Gilneas

Part 35 of 100.

Previous: By Blood and Ash · Next: Last Stand

  1. 30Message to Greymane
  2. 31Save Krennan Aranas
  3. 32Time to Regroup
  4. 33Sacrifices
  5. 34By Blood and Ash
  6. 35Never Surrender, Sometimes Retreat
  7. 36Last Stand
  8. 37Last Chance at Humanity
  9. 38Among Humans Again
  10. 39In Need of Ingredients
  11. 40Invasion
  12. 41Kill or Be Killed

Showing steps 30 to 41 of 100.

Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.

Where this quest fits

Before this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • By Blood and AshGilneas City · Level 1-20

    The time has come, <name>. If we're going to put a dent in their numbers, the time is now. We have the position. We have the firepower. All that remains to be seen is whether we have the courage... and I sure don't see a coward standing in front of me.

After this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • Last StandGilneas City · Level 1-20

    We've got a good chokepoint here, <name>. Feel free to say a prayer if that's your sort of thing. Take courage and let's kill these mutts.

The storyline at a glance

Gilneas has 100 steps, from Lockdown! to Rut'theran Village.

Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Gilneas (89), Gilneas City (11).

Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.

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