I feel a bit weird doing this quest. Are we the Forsaken that embittered/desperate that we need to stoop to Arthas' level to bolster our ranks?
Quest
When Death is Not Enough
A World of Warcraft quest in Western Plaguelands. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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Totally out of character for my blood elf paladin. If I wasn't going for the zone quest achievement, I would have skipped this whole chain. It's just one more item on my growing list of reasons why I dislike the Forsaken.
The only thing I hate about this quest is that you don't have enough time to loot the corpse before the Val'kyr changes the dead Alliance Laborer's corpse into an undead. I even had auto loot on and still couldn't target a corpse and my character got stuck in an awkward position after trying to loot a corpse.
Quest facts
Check whether you have already completed this quest
in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(26937))
Requirements
Read from the Blizzard quest API.
What to do
Description
Derrington and his men don't know it, but it was I who ordered the plaguing of Felstone Field. We need this area for practice. If we're to win this war for Andorhal, we need to use our newest, most versatile weapon: Val'kyr. Take my enthralled val'kyr with you, {name}, and kill the simpering Alliance scum that remain on Felstone. Once they are dead, she will bring them back to this world... as one of us. The Forsaken shall not die out!
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Turn-inObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaIn-game waypoint: /way #22 40.5 52.9
Coordinates
- Turn-inWestern Plaguelands 40.5, 52.9
/way #22 40.5 52.9 - Objective area (centre of the marked area)Western Plaguelands 37.2, 56.9
/way #22 37.2 56.9 - Objective areaWestern Plaguelands 40.7, 52.0
/way #22 40.7 52.0
Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Nearby on the Western Plaguelands map
- Honor the Flame about 500 yards
- At War With The Scarlet Crusade about 600 yards
- Desecrate this Fire! about 860 yards
- Keeping the Peace about 880 yards
- Sacred Ground about 880 yards
- Seeking Guidance about 890 yards
- The Light Reveals about 1,000 yards
- Finding the Scepter about 1,450 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Western Plaguelands, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Horde flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Western Plaguelands:
- Andorhal, Western Plaguelands
- The Menders' Stead, Western Plaguelands
- The Bulwark, Tirisfal
From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:
- Objective area
- Objective area
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Other quests on the Western Plaguelands map
Reward details
Reputation: Undercity +250
Led by Sylvanas Windrunner, the Forsaken have joined a tenuous alliance with the Horde and established this capital in the vast depths under the Ruins of Lordaeron.
Reputation group: Horde.
Other quests in Western Plaguelands that reward Undercity reputation: The Battle for Andorhal (+25), Scourge First... Alliance Later (+250), The Endless Flow (+250), War Machines (+350), Scholomancer (+500), Araj the Summoner (+350).
Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.
Storyline
Western Plaguelands
Part 38 of 63.
Previous: Strange New Faces · Next: Combat Training
- 33Foxes and Hounds
- 34Who Needs Cauldrons?
- 35Foes Before Hoes
- 36Lower the Boom
- 37Strange New Faces
- 38When Death is Not Enough
- 39Combat Training
- 40The Battle Resumes!
- 41The Farmers' Militia
- 42Supporting the Troops
- 43Ashes to Ashes
- 44Lindsay Ravensun, Revealed
Showing steps 33 to 44 of 63.
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Strange New Faces
Now that Felstone is ours, we can use its acreage - and any dead bodies we find - for our own purposes. I've received orders from higher up that you are going to be helping out in this process. You may have met Lindsay Ravensun on the battlefield in Andorhal.
After this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Combat Training
A val'kyr's only purpose is to serve, and this one serves you. I am now giving you full control over her abilities, <name>. Roaming around the farm's outskirts, you should find several of the Forsaken that you just created. I want you to use your val'kyr to gather at least five of them.
The storyline at a glance
Western Plaguelands has 63 steps, from Scourge First... Horde Later to Turning Yourself In.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Western Plaguelands (63).
Steps of this storyline count toward:
Other storylines on the Western Plaguelands map
- The Ashbringer
- Tirisfal Glades
- Scepter of Sargeras
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.