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New Allies, New Problems

New Allies, New Problems is a Horde-only quest for level 40-90. It is step 3 of 25 in the Allies of the Horde: Vulpera storyline. The quest's turn-in marker is in Orgrimmar at 48.9, 72.8. It rewards 4,750 experience and money.

Description

Baine certainly has his hands full. Taking on new allies means taking on new problems.

Let us find out what troubles those within the Horde and see what we can do to help.

Perhaps when Baine isn't so overwhelmed, he'll be able see our true value.

Rewards

Money14 gold4 silver50 copper
Experience4,750 XP

Stuck on this quest?

  • Turn in at Orgrimmar 48.9, 72.8 /way #85 48.9 72.8

Known issues

Top Comments

The highest voted Wowhead comments for this page. They are community notes, not TheWoWDB comments.

1
Aetiranos+3via Wowhead (opens the original comment in a new tab)

In order to begin this questline, you must first:


  • Have the Battle for Azeroth expansion

  • Complete the Secrets in the Sands questline.

  • Reach exalted reputation with the [faction=2158] (No Longer Required as of 9.0.1)

This quest is part of a chain of quests that unlock the Vulpera allied race for the Horde. The questline consists of 25 different quests but doesn't take a significant amount of time to complete (around 1 hour with BFA flying). Upon completion, you will unlock the Vulpera allied race, receive the [item=174066] mount, the [item=173727] toy, as well as earn the achievement, Allied Races: Vulpera (Hidden Character Achievement). Although it consists of 25 quests, many of the quests can be accepted/completed at the same time.


#1 of 25
Guests at Grommash Hold
Meet your guests within Grommash Hold.
#2 of 25
A Declaration of Intent
Witness Kiro's declaration to join the Horde.
#3 of 25
New Allies, New Problems
Find out what troubles Commander Dresh, Bladeguard Sonji, and First Arcanist Thalyssra.
#4 of 25
No Problem Too Small
Meet Kiro in Twilight Highlands.
#5 of 25
Where Are the Workers?
Find out where the Crushblow Peons went.
#6 of 25
A Little Goodwill
Collect 100 Saber Flanks, 100 Worg Meat, and 100 Clucker Tidbits.
#7 of 25
Worthwhile Repairs
Collect 15 Twilight Ore so Kiro can repair the peon's tools.
#8 of 25
Peon Promotions!
Give promotions to a few of the Crushblow Peons at Peon Hideout.
#9 of 25
A Party in Your Honor
Inform Foreman Magrok that the Horde is throwing a party for the peons.
#10 of 25
Strength and Honor
Battle Foreman Magrok, showing both strength and honor.
#11 of 25
Job's Done
Return to Commander Dresh at Grommash Hold in Orgrimmar.
#12 of 25
On the Outskirts
Find Nisha on the southern coast of Zuldazar.
#13 of 25
Explosions Always Work
Place Volatile Explosives on naga Harpoon Launchers, and then detonate them to create a distraction.
#14 of 25
We'll Use Their Weapons
Collect 10 Nazeshi Weaponry from forces within Dreadpearl Shallows.
#15 of 25
Destroying the Source
Destroy 3 Nazeshi Powercells within Dreadpearl Shallows.
td align=center]#16 of 25
Taking Out the Tidecaller
Kill Tidecaller Nezara.
#17 of 25
Threat Contained
Return to Bladeguard Sonji at Grommash Hold in Orgrimmar.
#18 of 25
Meet with Meerah
Find Meerah within Suramar's Twilight Vineyards.
#19 of 25
The Vintner's Assistants
Speak to Micah Broadhoof, Boss Mida, and Nomi.
#20 of 25
Playing to Their Strengths
Assign new roles to Micah Broadhoof, Boss Mida, and Nomi.
#21 of 25
A Particular Process
Speak to Nomi.
#22 of 25
Fermented for the Horde
Collect the needed ingredients to create a wine worthy of the Horde.
#23 of 25
Sip and Savor
Deliver a sample of Nomi's Wine to Vintner Iltheux and gain his approval.
#24 of 25
Awaiting Our Arrival
Return to Grommash Hold within Orgrimmar.
#25 of 25
New Allies Among Us
Witness Baine welcome the vulpera into the Horde.


2
liltechdude+1via Wowhead (opens the original comment in a new tab)

The NPC dialog in this quest, especially when questioning Thalyssra, is very strange. Thalyssra says, "Baine sent assistants to Suramar to aid with our arcwine production, but managing them has proven... difficult."

Haven't the Nightborne given up arcwine? It was my understanding that arcwine production ceased when the Nightborne let the Nightwell die after the events in Legion so they could end their addiction to it. By now the Nightborne should be sustaining themselves with the fruit of the Arcan'dor rather than arcwine from the Nightwell no longer in existence. Right?

Perhaps Blizzard was just throwing in a little joke in the Vulpera allied race unlock quest chain... Or they need to get their lore straight.

1 more comment below ↓

Check whether you have already completed it in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(53890))

Top Comments

The highest voted Wowhead comments for this page. They are community notes, not TheWoWDB comments.

1
Aetiranos+3via Wowhead (opens the original comment in a new tab)

In order to begin this questline, you must first:


  • Have the Battle for Azeroth expansion

  • Complete the Secrets in the Sands questline.

  • Reach exalted reputation with the [faction=2158] (No Longer Required as of 9.0.1)

This quest is part of a chain of quests that unlock the Vulpera allied race for the Horde. The questline consists of 25 different quests but doesn't take a significant amount of time to complete (around 1 hour with BFA flying). Upon completion, you will unlock the Vulpera allied race, receive the [item=174066] mount, the [item=173727] toy, as well as earn the achievement, Allied Races: Vulpera (Hidden Character Achievement). Although it consists of 25 quests, many of the quests can be accepted/completed at the same time.


#1 of 25
Guests at Grommash Hold
Meet your guests within Grommash Hold.
#2 of 25
A Declaration of Intent
Witness Kiro's declaration to join the Horde.
#3 of 25
New Allies, New Problems
Find out what troubles Commander Dresh, Bladeguard Sonji, and First Arcanist Thalyssra.
#4 of 25
No Problem Too Small
Meet Kiro in Twilight Highlands.
#5 of 25
Where Are the Workers?
Find out where the Crushblow Peons went.
#6 of 25
A Little Goodwill
Collect 100 Saber Flanks, 100 Worg Meat, and 100 Clucker Tidbits.
#7 of 25
Worthwhile Repairs
Collect 15 Twilight Ore so Kiro can repair the peon's tools.
#8 of 25
Peon Promotions!
Give promotions to a few of the Crushblow Peons at Peon Hideout.
#9 of 25
A Party in Your Honor
Inform Foreman Magrok that the Horde is throwing a party for the peons.
#10 of 25
Strength and Honor
Battle Foreman Magrok, showing both strength and honor.
#11 of 25
Job's Done
Return to Commander Dresh at Grommash Hold in Orgrimmar.
#12 of 25
On the Outskirts
Find Nisha on the southern coast of Zuldazar.
#13 of 25
Explosions Always Work
Place Volatile Explosives on naga Harpoon Launchers, and then detonate them to create a distraction.
#14 of 25
We'll Use Their Weapons
Collect 10 Nazeshi Weaponry from forces within Dreadpearl Shallows.
#15 of 25
Destroying the Source
Destroy 3 Nazeshi Powercells within Dreadpearl Shallows.
td align=center]#16 of 25
Taking Out the Tidecaller
Kill Tidecaller Nezara.
#17 of 25
Threat Contained
Return to Bladeguard Sonji at Grommash Hold in Orgrimmar.
#18 of 25
Meet with Meerah
Find Meerah within Suramar's Twilight Vineyards.
#19 of 25
The Vintner's Assistants
Speak to Micah Broadhoof, Boss Mida, and Nomi.
#20 of 25
Playing to Their Strengths
Assign new roles to Micah Broadhoof, Boss Mida, and Nomi.
#21 of 25
A Particular Process
Speak to Nomi.
#22 of 25
Fermented for the Horde
Collect the needed ingredients to create a wine worthy of the Horde.
#23 of 25
Sip and Savor
Deliver a sample of Nomi's Wine to Vintner Iltheux and gain his approval.
#24 of 25
Awaiting Our Arrival
Return to Grommash Hold within Orgrimmar.
#25 of 25
New Allies Among Us
Witness Baine welcome the vulpera into the Horde.


2
liltechdude+1via Wowhead (opens the original comment in a new tab)

The NPC dialog in this quest, especially when questioning Thalyssra, is very strange. Thalyssra says, "Baine sent assistants to Suramar to aid with our arcwine production, but managing them has proven... difficult."

Haven't the Nightborne given up arcwine? It was my understanding that arcwine production ceased when the Nightborne let the Nightwell die after the events in Legion so they could end their addiction to it. By now the Nightborne should be sustaining themselves with the fruit of the Arcan'dor rather than arcwine from the Nightwell no longer in existence. Right?

Perhaps Blizzard was just throwing in a little joke in the Vulpera allied race unlock quest chain... Or they need to get their lore straight.

1 more comment below ↓

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Rewards in detail
TypeRewardAmount
ExperienceXP4,750
MoneyGold14g 4s
Where it comes from
Turn-in mapOrgrimmarTurn-in marker at 48.9, 72.8, 3 mapped points
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Where to go

Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.

Orgrimmar Quest turn-in 3 mapped points
Orgrimmar map showing where to go for New Allies, New ProblemsTurn-inObjective areaObjective area

In-game waypoint: /way #85 48.9 72.8

Coordinates

  • Turn-inOrgrimmar 48.9, 72.8/way #85 48.9 72.8
  • Objective areaOrgrimmar 48.2, 71.7/way #85 48.2 71.7

Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.

Nearby on the Orgrimmar map

Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Orgrimmar, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.

Getting there

Horde flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Orgrimmar:

  • Orgrimmar, DurotarHorde · about 160 yards north
  • Nozzlepot's Outpost, Northern BarrensHorde · about 1,100 yards south-west
  • Valormok, AzsharaHorde · about 1,400 yards north

Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.

Quest Line

Storyline

Allies of the Horde: Vulpera

Part 3 of 25.

Previous: A Declaration of Intent · Next: No Problem Too Small

  1. 1Guests at Grommash Hold
  2. 2A Declaration of Intent
  3. 3New Allies, New Problems
  4. 4No Problem Too Small
  5. 5Where Are the Workers?
  6. 6A Little Goodwill
  7. 7Worthwhile Repairs
  8. 8Peon Promotions!
  9. 9A Party in Your Honor
  10. 10Strength and Honor
  11. 11Job's Done
  12. 12On the Outskirts

Showing steps 1 to 12 of 25.

Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.

Where this quest fits

Before this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • A Declaration of IntentLevel 40-90

    Our caravan is ready to explore the world beyond the sands, but Nisha's blade can't be our only defense against the dangers we know await us. This is why we've come. To declare our intent to join the Horde.

After this quest

Taken from the storyline's own step order.

  • No Problem Too SmallLevel 40-90

    These problems might seem small, but they will eat away at the Horde over time if they remain unaddressed. We must offer our help. The vulpera are skilled at solving problems, no matter their size. I will investigate the outpost. Nisha and Meerah will see to the others.

The storyline at a glance

Allies of the Horde: Vulpera has 25 steps, from Guests at Grommash Hold to New Allies Among Us.

Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Orgrimmar (7), Twilight Highlands (7), Suramar (6), Zuldazar (5).

Steps of this storyline count toward:

Other storylines on the Orgrimmar map

Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.

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