TheWoWDBBefore you start using your Dalaran Hearthstone or Flight Master's Whistle when you pick this quest up, Dusktalon is nearby. It's a hippogryph that will take you from the Nightfallen camp (where you pick up the quests) directly to Black Rook Hold in Val'sharah.
Quest
Learning From the Dead
A World of Warcraft quest in Suramar. Facts and objectives from the current retail game data.
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This is done outside the instance in Val'sharah.
You have to fly to Val'sharah and then go to Black Rook Hold (not an instance, just an area) and there three Telemancy Beacons. Find a hippogryph named Dusktalon, he will take you to the Hold. [item=142258] located everywhere on the ground across the Hold, just pick them up.
Learning From the Dead — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrQWzQv6iys
This quest is a part of Crafting War quest chain needed for Insurrection achievement.
_Crafting War quest chain:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnmWyHOAHLMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_jE-jNP90https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiC6w9UqmAshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc9FA5NI8pkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRsJNR03kRMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMI-GMh9cmQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfymQPIpbZYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrQWzQv6iyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAsMh9Re4NU
Quest facts
Quest ID44830
Check whether you have already completed this quest
in-game: /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(44830))
What to do
WhereSuramar, Val'sharah
StorylineCrafting War, step 11 of 17
RewardsEnchanted Nightborne Coin, 20g 22s, 6,150 XP
Enchanted Nightborne Coin, 20g 22s, 6,150 XPDescription
I heard you were traveling to Black Rook Hold. It was once home to the legendary Lord Ravencrest, a brilliant tactician. His knowledge may be exactly what we need to give us an edge against the Duskwatch. While you are at the Rook, keep your eyes peeled for any books that might have survived the ages that outline the Ravencrest's strategems.
Where to go
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Turn-inIn-game waypoint: /way #680 39.8 51.3
Objective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaObjective areaIn-game waypoint: /way #641 45.6 51.3
Coordinates
- Turn-inSuramar 39.8, 51.3
/way #680 39.8 51.3 - Objective area (centre of the marked area)Val'sharah 42.9, 51.8
/way #641 42.9 51.8
Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Nearby on the Suramar map
- Down to Business about 60 yards
- Ready for Battle about 70 yards
- A Better Future about 80 yards
- Break An Arm about 80 yards
- Taking a Promenade about 80 yards
- Take Me To Your Leader about 80 yards
- Court of Stars: Literary Perfection about 180 yards
- Repaid Debt about 180 yards
- Saving the Guard about 180 yards
- Planning the Assault about 180 yards
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on Suramar, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Getting there
Flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on Suramar:
- Meredil, Suramar
- Irongrove Retreat, Suramar
- Western Suramar
From the turn-in, the objective areas lie:
- Objective area
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
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Reward details
Items you receive
TypeConsumable
Item level1
BindingBinds when picked up
Sells to vendors for25 gold
“Handed down for generations, this coin holds lingering knowledge from all its previous holders.”
Reputation: The Nightfallen +250
These exiled Nightborne elves suffer withdrawals after being cut off from the Nightwell. They oppose their people's alliance with the Legion and fight for some kind of redemption.
Reputation group: Legion.
Other quests in Suramar that reward The Nightfallen reputation: Answering Aggression (+250), Regroup (+250), Crackdown (+250), No Reason to Stay (+250), Trail of Echoes (+250), The Only Way Out is Through (+250).
Item facts are the current retail client’s (ItemSparse); the specialisations for a pick-one item are the ones the Blizzard quest API lists; faction and currency text is the client’s own. Lowest listed price = the US commodity auction house now.
Storyline
Crafting War
Part 11 of 17.
Previous: Citizens' Army · Next: Trial by Demonfire
- 6Something's Not Quite Right...
- 7Arming the Rebels
- 8Arming the Rebels
- 9We Need Weapons
- 10Citizens' Army
- 11Learning From the Dead
- 12Trial by Demonfire
- 13Mouths to Feed
- 14Oculeth Ex Machina
- 15Unbeleyvable
- 16The Art of Flow
- 17A Dance With Dragons
Showing steps 6 to 17 of 17.
Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Where this quest fits
Before this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Citizens' Army
I can barely get these civilians to stand in a straight line. They are untrained, undisciplined, and underarmed. Still, they need to be ready for the real battle. Khadgar suggested we try some field training at the ruins of Black Rook Hold in Val'sharah.
After this quest
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
- Trial by Demonfire
We are out of time. I have reports that a pitlord has come to Meredil. I have dispatched a strike force. We cannot let this demon flank our army here, nor can we let him find Shal'Aran. It is time to temper these recruits in a real battle.
The storyline at a glance
Crafting War has 17 steps, from Feeding the Rebellion to A Dance With Dragons.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): Suramar (14), Azsuna (3).
Steps of this storyline count toward:
Other storylines on the Suramar map
- Blood and Wine
- Balance of Power
- An Elven Problem
- The Waning Crescent
- Eminent Grow-main
- Breaking the Lightbreaker
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.