Determination is a quest for level 80 in The Maw. It is step 10 of 12 in the Paths Forward storyline. The quest's turn-in marker is in The Maw at 26.3, 31.7. It rewards 1,450 experience and money.
Hold a moment.
Arator will be fine for a few moments longer. Let him travel alone for a moment.
I wish to speak to you. Privately.
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Stay awhile dialogue differences:
Non-Loyalist
"I have made many foes on the path that brought me here. Most of them once called me an ally.
I do not regret the choices I made, nor do I bear ill will toward those who met me with their fangs bared.
But know this: I cannot stop now. I MUST NOT stop now, or all I have done will have been for naught.
Return to Azeroth. Fight the battles ahead of you. One day, our paths will cross again."Loyalist
"It has been many years since you chose to follow me, despite where I led you.
Know this. I do not deal in regrets. For all that has happened, and all we have done... It would be a greater crime still, to falter now.
Return to Azeroth, my champion. You will be of more use there, in the days to come. And should any of our allies ask...
Tell them that the Dark Lady watches, even now."Upon Completion you get:
Non-loyalist
"Needless to say, you and I have not always seen eye to eye. All the same, I owe you thanks. Arator is a naive fool, but he is family."
"Now go. See to it that he returns home safely. "Loyalist
"I am not certain what it says about you, that you have remained loyal to me even now. But I am grateful, for all that you have done. For better or worse, I would not be where I am now without your assistance and counsel."
"Given your position in the world, it would be unwise for me to say such things while others linger. But know this: I am grateful that you chose to stand with me."
I skipped most of the cut scenes, for this one I did not skip it, I wasn't able to see her playing the music earlier and I can't hear her voice, so it appeared that I wasn't able to do the turn in. After standing at 26.21, 31.71 for about 3 minutes the yellow question mark appeared above her head.
I assume she was just talking the entire time and this is a bug that blizz hasn't fixed yet.
I played loyalist and I think so? She says "it has been many years since you chose to follow me, despite where I led you. " Then the turn-in quest box says "I'm not certain what it says about you, that you have remained loyal to me even now, but I am grateful for all that you have done..." And more, for loyalists only.
| Type | Reward | Amount |
|---|---|---|
| Experience | XP | 1,450 |
| Money | Gold | 3g 9s |
| Turn-in map | The Maw | Turn-in marker at 26.3, 31.7, 2 mapped points |
|---|
Pins are the quest’s own POI points from the current retail client, projected onto the in-game zone map. The game marks one blob as the quest’s turn-in; the rest are objective areas. Points that fall outside a map’s window are dropped rather than guessed at.
Turn-inObjective areaIn-game waypoint: /way #1543 26.3 31.7
TheWoWDB/way #1543 26.3 31.7/way #1543 25.9 32.0Map coordinates of the pins above. An area the client draws as a shape is given by the centre of its points.
Quests whose map markers the client places closest to this one on The Maw, nearest first. Distances are straight lines between the markers.
Flight points closest to the quest’s turn-in marker on The Maw:
Straight-line distances in yards between the quest’s own map markers (QuestPOI) and the client’s flight-point positions (TaxiNodes); flight paths and terrain are not modelled.
Part 10 of 12.
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Storyline order is the client’s own QuestLine data from the current retail build.
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
The reagents are gathered, and the lingering souls have been put at ease for the moment. We do not have long. Stand back, while I send them to where they are meant to dwell.
Taken from the storyline's own step order.
When I decided to come here, I have to admit that I wasn't sure what I would find. There's no disputing the terrible things that Sylvanas has done, and it's a burden that she will have to bear for the rest of her days. But seeing her, like this... Come. We've been here too long as it is.
Paths Forward has 12 steps, from Excising the Incursion to The Eleventh Hour.
Maps its steps are placed on (steps per map): The Maw (10), Tazavesh (1), Dornogal (1).
Steps of this storyline count toward:
Steps, storylines and map placement from the client’s QuestLine, prerequisite and QuestPOI data; neighbouring quest text is Blizzard’s own (quest API), shortened to its opening sentences.
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